Not sure who downvoted this. JetBrains IDEs are done for.

I don't even remember the last time I opened them, I cancelled my All Products pack this year.

The advantage it had over vscode was always the better language features and the familiar UI.

None of that is useful to me in AI based workflows. Some might still disagree, but the manual development workflow using an IDE is clearly dying.

JetBrain's revenue will obviously crater as a result, particularly when slower enterprise licenses follow.

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yolo3000 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I've been paying for the all products pack for 8 years now, but at my latest job all code is generated, and I think this will be the reality at most companies. I won't extend this year

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poncho_romero 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I "code" using Codex but I still use PHPStorm for checking diffs, database access, reviewing PRs, and the debugger. The value proposition has changed, not disappeared.

	▲	user43928 17 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I always preferred to check MR diffs in GitLab. And I don't use the debugger nowadays. The AI can do it much faster and add relevant instrumentation and parse logs.

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mjr00 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Not sure who downvoted this.

If you've been on HN long enough you recognize that the OP is quite prolific in making absurd claims about AI: infamously predicted that children would be making professional, Hollywood level films by the end of 2025, and is now spending their time building the 5000th barely functional clone of Adobe tools[0]. It's probably a little unfair, but they are bold claims from someone who really does not have the ground to be making bold claims.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49958850

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swozey 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is like watching weekend car tinkerers argue with Ferrari mechanics about their tooling. "I'm never going to write code ever again."

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user43928 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Only that it isn't, and that millions of professionals, including myself, use agentic AI successfully to implement high quality software.

That there is no lack of people delivering low quality using AI does not change this.

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swozey 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

You don't get the nuance that there are people who enjoy the writing the code part more than they enjoy the handholding and hitting enter on a prompt part. And they write it fast or concise enough to not need to prompt engineer bicker with a machine.

And as soon as an edge case pops up that your model will have never been able to hear about because it hasn't been released publicly, security vuln, whatever, you'll get a "fix" confidently hallucinated at you and be none the wiser.

There's going to be a huge pendulum swing with all the llm zombies and sanewashing it like this isn't helping anyone.

All of this just oozes junior engineer if you're even employed in the field at all.

	▲	user43928 13 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I do get that some people enjoy the manual process more than they enjoy building the product. It doesn't give you the right to insult my expertise, and frankly your arguments sound like things that one would make up despite little actual experience using AI to develop software.

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esafak 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Hobbyists are more likely to use IDEs at this point; pros have to get work done.

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echelon an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> Not sure who downvoted this.

Half of HN hates AI.

A large percentage thinks that the current status quo is how things will look over the next decade. They don't think everything is fundamentally and irreversibly changing.

Nobody is coming out of this with the same career. The whole world is being rewired. Some people really don't like that.

I'm just glad we're out of the web platform / cellphone incrementalism era. I wish more of my career could have been spent with this rocket fuel. It's dangerous and hypergolic, but it's fun and flashy and capable of pulling us out of this gravity well.

	▲	cbg0 35 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I use AI on a daily basis and I still found all of your takes in this thread to be silly hyperbole.
	▲	monkey_monkey 8 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's kinda cute that you think you're the prophet of AI spreading wisdom