After the LK-99 debacle, I'm taking this with a truck load of salt.

I think, of course, skepticism around this "LLM discovers X" thing is warranted, and there have been plenty of more recent examples around questionable LLM "discoveries". Just stating this because the LK99 thing I believe was notable as a (supposed) room-temp _super_conductor while this is about a _semi_conductor.

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post-it 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

Oh wait, you're right. I misread the title. Don't we already have room temperature semiconductors?

	▲	gus_massa 11 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Yep. This has interesting magnetic properties. In magnetic materials, you must calculate separately the current with spin up and spin down and there ara meny interesting applications. My favorite is[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_magnetoresistance [1] Was. Because it has used for hard disks (see the applications section). Now SSD ruins the interesting anecdote.

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adriand an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> After the LK-99 debacle

"Debacle"? That was the most fun I've had on the Internet in years. When's the last time so many people engaged in so many arguments about materials science and electromagnetism? Sometime in the 1800s?

	▲	ntonozzi an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Maybe he meant 'debacle' in an endearing sense, not a derogatory one. I personally agree with you and loved this debacle.

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gekoxyz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah I remember going to my physics professor super excited about LK-99 to ask him if he heard about it, and him just telling me "yes but stuff like that happens twice per year, they will find something is off", and in fact it's what happened...

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mawadev 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I start my day with plenty of optimism, then I go back and forth in the CLI and find out most of whats posted online is fake, and then towards the end of the day 2h past my bed time I end up ed zitron maxxing, it is the way it is ig

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jghn 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Even without the LK-99 debacle, I am *way* less excited about this than I was the original LK-99 announcement. The chance that this is real is close to 0%

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mlmonkey an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You probably meant "I'm taking this with a tiny pinch of salt". The amount of salt is directly proportional to how much of the claim you are willing to accept.

Edit: I stand corrected. According to Gemini:

Me: Does using more salt mean accepting more of that claim?

Gemini: No, it actually means the exact opposite. If you say you need to take a claim with a huge pile of salt (or a shovel of salt), it means you believe the claim is highly unbelievable and you need an immense amount of skepticism to accept it. How the Metaphor Scales

• A single grain of salt: "I am slightly skeptical, but it could be true."

• A pinch of salt: "I have a healthy amount of doubt about this."

• A grain of sand / A truckload of salt: "This sounds completely made up, and I barely believe a single word of it."

The salt represents your skepticism, not your belief. Therefore, the more unbelievable the claim, the more "salt" you need to swallow it.

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frereubu an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think this is right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_grain_of_salt The "grain" isn't a single grain, it's an old English measure which is around 65mg, i.e. roughly how much there is in a pinch. I've also only ever heard people use larger amounts to mean more scepticism.

	▲	PostOnce 36 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		A person leans on the titanic intellect of a trillion dollar company's most fearsome LLM, only to be corrected by a random commenter with a link to Wikipedia. We live in interesting times.

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Retro_Dev an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hmm? I always thought it was how much you had to flavor the statement to swallow it.

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esperent an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, the implementation is that something "tastes off" so you need to add a pinch (+) of salt to make it palatable. The more off it tastes, the more salt you need.

(+) Or a "grain" if you're from the US since American English sayings seem to all date from the middle ages, while the rest of the English speaking world tends to update ours over time. No shade meant, I've just always found that interesting.

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ReptileMan an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Inversely proportional

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plastic-enjoyer 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess mlmonkey is a fitting name.

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tempestn an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Citation needed.