| ▲ | Huawei and Qualcomm Announce Broad Patent License Agreement(huawei.com) |
| 47 points by 0xedb 2 hours ago | 28 comments |
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| ▲ | whatever1 an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| Remember when they were telling us how important the 5G race was and how critical was for the US to lead it? And now they are just giving it away ? |
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| ▲ | jillesvangurp 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The alternative would be trying to file court cases outside the US for Qualcomm, which is where Huawei does most of its business and infringing. There's a long history of various companies doing patent license deals like this in the telecom industry. Nokia still earns a lot of money this way, for example. Apple settled with them on a few occasions. Speaking of which; Apple has its own 5G chips now so they are a bit less dependent on Qualcomm now. Huawei and Apple both have a lot of their own in house technology at this point. But of course Qualcomm always was a strong IP company with lots of patents and its impossible for either to make phones without infringing on at least some of those patterns. And vice versa, a lot of Qualcomm's stuff would necessarily infringe on some patents by others. That's why these cross licensing deals like this are usually the outcome of disputes around IP. | |
| ▲ | AlanYx 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They're not giving it away, rather they're essentially forming a patent oligopoly. Huawei and Qualcomm together hold the bulk of patents for 5G. It's of no value to them to try to litigate against each other. Here they're getting a cross-licensing deal that will solidify their patent licensing wall/revenues. Is it potentially anticompetitive? Yes. | | |
| ▲ | dozerly 6 minutes ago | parent [-] | | No corporations would enter an agreement that is pro-competition, doesn’t make sense. That’s where government needs to step up and provide some value |
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| ▲ | vachina an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Huawei has been leading in 5G deployments until US decides him and his allies cannot be friends with Huawei. Qualcomm will benefit greatly from this arrangement. | | |
| ▲ | yftsui an hour ago | parent [-] | | Leading in 5G deployments yet cannot make a 5G phone? | | |
| ▲ | bayindirh 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Nokia and Ericsson is leading telecommunications without making 5G phones. I'm not talking about the company which makes "Nokia Phones". I'm talking about Nokia the infrastructure company. | | | |
| ▲ | froh 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | HUAWEI Mate 20 X 5G was launched in 2019, so what exactly are you referencing here? | |
| ▲ | dudisubekti 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | ? They've been making their own 5g phones since 2023 (mate 60) |
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| ▲ | earldennison 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | maybe 6g is on the way and they don't care about 5g anymore. | |
| ▲ | kotaKat 23 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nortel 2.0. Canada remembers how fucked over we got in espionage. Now Qualcomm’s just giving them it on a silver platter. |
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| ▲ | rwmj an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Aren't Huawei on the Entity List? How can Qualcomm enter into agreements like this without getting into massive hot water? |
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| ▲ | ovi256 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Big companies were sometimes getting sanction waivers. In energy, Exxon for example has been getting waivers to keep investing in Russian oil and gas since 2014. They got out in 2022 though, and the waivers stopped (I've no idea which ended first, the waivers or Exxon's interest in those projects). | |
| ▲ | nicce an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | With the current state of the U.S politics, nothing is sure. | |
| ▲ | Havoc an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They can just donate some crypto to one of the Trump kids to get it approved… |
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| ▲ | zoobab an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Cartels. |
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| ▲ | newsclues an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/chinese-telecommunic... lol |
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| ▲ | mirekrusin 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Patents serve cartels. Good luck for innovative startups trying to enter this rigged game. |
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| ▲ | ExpertAdvisor01 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "This transaction will close following receipt of the necessary regulatory approvals" |
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| ▲ | nickdothutton an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Ah yes, Huawei, that well known adherent to patent agreements. |
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| ▲ | phatfish an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Patents just embed western monopolies and cost everyone except the sovereign wealth funds and private equity that own everything in the west. Someone has to tear it down, and it's not going to come from within. No balls on this side. | | |
| ▲ | zoobab an hour ago | parent [-] | | Here in Europe, the Unified Patent Court just rubberstamped software patents with a smartwatch decision, saying adding a button makes the whole thing patentable, even though it's only software. Like FFII.org predicted in 2006: https://ffii.org/ "In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalize software patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy. Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of software, they are now seeking to create a central Unitary patent court (UPC), which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or democratically elected legislators." Not to mention the judges in that court are part time working for Nokia or Airbus. |
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| ▲ | vincnetas an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You know, at this scale law, is more like suggestion if benefits of not following it are better. Apple ordered to pay $5.7bn after losing vibration tech patent suit (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6je85n2vyleo) You can ask AI to summarise the list of when for example apple ignored patents. I get 16 cases. | |
| ▲ | dudisubekti an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What a strange sarcasm, nobody's forcing Qualcomm to do this. | |
| ▲ | whatever1 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | QC will send them a sad emoji if their patents are violated in China. | | |
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