The "porn harms women" argument really seems to infantilize women and assumes that women can never want or enjoy sex for the sake of sex.

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jonahx 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This is not the claim. The claim is that, empirically, many (or enough) of the women who end up in porn are underage, trafficked, or psychologically coerced (due to poverty, drug addiction, abuse, etc) such that the choice is not really the free choice of willing participant.

I am all for individual freedoms, but I've read enough about this issue, and seen enough documentaries, that I think the claim is very well-founded. Of course, some porn stars are just willing adults doing something they want to do, but there are many who are not.

	▲	lokar 11 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I’ve seen two arguments: Women who do not provide fully informed and voluntarily consent are harmed Porn makes some (or many, or all) men who consume it treat some (or many, or all) women badly
	▲	UltraSane 21 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> The claim is that, empirically, many (or enough) of the women who end up in porn are underage, trafficked, or psychologically coerced (due to poverty, drug addiction, abuse, etc) such that the choice is not really the free choice of willing participant. The main point of contention becomes what "enough" constitutes. Almost no women in commercial porn is underage as all countries that legally allow its production also require strict proof of age for the people actually having sex.

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lokar an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Some argue it harms all women who participate in, but others argue it harms some women who participate, which seems undeniable.

	▲	fwip 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		True, and this is probably true of all work. Retail work has probably harmed many more women than sex work (by virtue of being much more common).