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▲ derriz 3 hours ago

Capacity factor of orbital solar PV panel: 97%

Capacity factor of terrestrial solar panel: 23%

Retail cost per watt for terrestrial panel: under 45c

Manufacturing cost per watt of space grade solar panel: up to $450

Annual performance degradation of terrestrial solar panel: under 0.5%

That of space-grade solar panel: up to 2%

Life span of terrestrial panel: about 2x that of space panel.

Total difference in cost per watt feeding a DC load in space vs on land: about x400

And that's ignoring launch costs. It makes absolutely zero sense. And given the scale of production and investment in manufacturing, terrestrial is likely to stretch even further ahead in the cost stakes.

▲philipkglass 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The idea is still a real stretch, but according to Google's paper in Joule [1] they're putting satellites in low Earth orbit and only targeting a service lifetime of 5 years. Over that short time, with the correspondingly modest radiation exposure, you can use inexpensive silicon solar cells like you would use for terrestrial solar farms. The expensive space grade solar cells from e.g. Boeing Spectrolab are more resistant to radiation, and achieve higher conversion efficiencies, but silicon cells are fine for satellites like these.

Starlink satellites already use silicon solar cells, since they too are cost sensitive and don't have long lifespans:

https://starlink.com/public-files/Starlink_Approach_to_Satel...

On the Starlink V2 mini satellite, we predict that approximately 5% of the mass of the entire satellite could survive reentry. The biggest contributor (~90% of the surviving mass) is silicon from the solar cells, which has a high melting point...

[1] https://www.cell.com/joule/fulltext/S2542-4351(26)00362-4

▲0cf8612b2e1e 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just on a mass basis it falls apart.

Best cost to orbit I am seeing is $1500/kg. A GPU rack is ~1500kg. Let’s imagine you can take a terrestrial data center rack, no scaffolding, solar panels, radiators, radios, propellant, or propulsion. Fly it into orbit, kick it out the airlock, and let it work through magic. That’s $2.2 million to get into position.

Industrial power rates are cheap, say $.10/kwh, but pretend you sign terrible deals, and it costs you $.30/kwh to run and cool a terrestrial GPU rack. A 150kw unit will then be (150x24x365x.3) =$394k/year.

You can operate the terrestrial version for 5.7 years before the two hit parity.

▲ben_w 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes for now; Alphabet is optimistic costs will come down.

They're projecting the learning curve, that the more you do it the cheaper it gets, continues arbitrarily far.

However, they recon it will take SpaceX launching 370,000 tons to LEO to make the costs come down enough to be worth it: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2511.19468

Even my bull case put that 10 years off, which is so far away it lacks relevance just because tech moves so much faster than that timescale; my bear case says that's about 45 years off.

▲hedora 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

Even if getting to orbit is free, the numbers don’t work.

5 years is a standard depreciation cycle for hardware, but plenty of machines last longer than that, but these satellites will not. On top of that, power distribution, cooling etc in the data centers is a huge percentage of cost and lasts much longer than 5 years.

If you think you can make a space air conditioner for less than a terrestrial one, I have a bridge to sell you.

▲LunaSea an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

$1500 / kg seems incredibly low considering that launching a simple 1U cube sat costs roughly $200,000.