| ▲ | Palantir founder purchases large swath of forest in Sweden(arctictoday.com) |
| 58 points by davidja an hour ago | 54 comments |
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| ▲ | Jabbles 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| Note that the red area on the map in the article is Härjedalen, which has an area of 11,405 km^2, 1.1M hectares, 2.8M acres. The purchased forest (15k hectares, 37k acres) is therefore ~1.3% of the region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4rjedalen |
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| ▲ | Noe2097 a few seconds ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wow, that would make such a nice area to train (military) drones & robots, in the middle of a country concerned by "noisy neighbors" ... Wait. |
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| ▲ | robin_reala 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That’s a strange map in the article. It makes it looks like he’s bought all of Härjedalen, rather than two orders of magnitude less. It’s still a chunky piece of land, but it’s definitely not that big. |
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| ▲ | conorcleary a few seconds ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Probably as retaliation to SAAB. |
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| ▲ | sorenjan 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don't know exactly where the land is, but according to media it's south of Storsjö kapell [0]. There's plenty of fell there, and he can't just build whatever he wants even if he owns the land. When a billionaire says he spent $22 million to by it for recreation, I don't see a big reason to not believe him, there's not much else he can use it for. It's not far from Funäsdalen which is a relatively popular ski resort [1], there are also hiking trails and similar [2]. The seller SCA is Europe's biggest private forest owner and owns 2.7 million hectares by the way. [0] https://maps.app.goo.gl/hQp2Rw9tM6kWTuTdA [1] https://funasdalen.se/en/winter/skiing/cross-country-skiing/ [2] https://funasdalen.se/en/summer/hiking/ |
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| ▲ | dylanz 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| He's a huge cross country skier so he probably wants his own little playground |
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| ▲ | LucaFromAlpha 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| what's that meme about rich people just doing really rich stuff and not worrying about being some BS worldly image? yeah that. |
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| ▲ | theropost 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why does it quote 37,000 acres, then show a picture with a large swath of Sweden highlighted as if that is the area purchased - though Sweden is approximately 111 million acres of land, so this would be 0.003% of the land, so nowhere near the representation in this picture - seem disingenuous to me. |
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| ▲ | bpodgursky an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| $600/acre for timber forest??? I had no idea Sweden was this cheap. Why wouldn't he drop $22mm on this... |
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| ▲ | sorenjan 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Considering where it is it might be protected from logging, so the economic value of the land might be low. The seller is a paper manufacturer, so if they could get more value from it they would have charged more. | |
| ▲ | Ekaros 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It is somewhat north. So I would expect potential income to be in line. Thus price can be relatively low and there still is not much profit. | |
| ▲ | nazgulsenpai 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Perhaps there's a reason Sweden wants him to have all of this land. | | | |
| ▲ | mahboi 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Guessing it's more expensive if you're buying less, otherwise I kinda want to buy 4 acres. | | | |
| ▲ | moralestapia 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nothing to see here. There's no corruption in the civilized world, even less in Nordic countries which are maximally developed culturally and socially. |
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| ▲ | silverFork 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Ai farm to be.. I suspect. |
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| ▲ | david_shaw 26 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Ai farm to be.. I suspect. I suspect the opposite: a billionaire's escape from a potentially turbulent society. | | |
| ▲ | silverFork 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Could be.. zillionaires usually like mountains; I hear he can't drive; driving the boonies far from civilization is not that easy in the winter. He needs to buy a big shovel for the winter. | | |
| ▲ | john_strinlai 10 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >I hear he can't drive; driving the boonies far from civilization is not that easy in the winter. He needs to buy a big shovel for the winter. that's what helicopters are for. -zillionaires, probably | | |
| ▲ | silverFork 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | He needs a landing strip for an aircraft. Helicopters are dangerous at night. No uber eats delivery there. We will see. It will take a decade to set it up. |
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| ▲ | ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 5 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | or... just plain old land speculation? |
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| ▲ | nalekberov 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Alex Karp, CEO of Palantir Technologies, purchased 15,000 hectares (37,000 acres) of forest in Härjedalen, Sweden, for 235 million kronor ($22 million). Seems like he could buy all of Sweden's forests if he wanted to. |
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| ▲ | NewJazz 36 minutes ago | parent [-] | | But would he still have Palantir? Also a large portion of thr forests are likely in public trust, and they'd be hesitant to sell all of it I'd think. Especially to one person with no track record of land management. |
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| ▲ | blondie9x 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Do we know what the goal was? Was this to protect forest land? Similar to something like this? https://www.nicfi.no/2024/12/10/norway-strengthens-support-o... |
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| ▲ | bigbuppo 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I mean, the first thing I did when I came into money was buy a couple thousand acres of land. |
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| ▲ | mertleee an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Assuming this is for conservation, it's hard to find reasons this is a bad thing. |
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| ▲ | fnordpiglet an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | This is where he will build 50 silos | | |
| ▲ | elias_t 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | They probably already have nano technology | |
| ▲ | xhevahir 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | He's probably buying it so that he can ski through miles of virgin forest with his Norwegian bodyguards. I hate this weirdo but he's probably not going to do much to the landscape. | | |
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| ▲ | subscribed 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is a quite far fetched assumption. I can't recall anything he said or did in the last few years that would make me assume he's done something good for the general public (or the humanity), and not for himself first and foremost. | |
| ▲ | mahboi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why would Alex Karp randomly buy Swedish forest for conservation? | | |
| ▲ | xhevahir 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Skiing. He arranges his life around Nordic skiing to an incredible degree. | | |
| ▲ | fhdkweig 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't really know anything about skiing, but can you do that in a virgin old-growth forest? | | |
| ▲ | sorenjan 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It's not far from a skiing resort. https://funasdalen.se/en/winter/skiing/cross-country-skiing/ | |
| ▲ | raddan 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes. All you really need are paths. This is a bit of an overgeneralization since forests in different places have different growth habits, but many old growth forests have less underbrush. During the winter, these forests are pretty easy to navigate on Nordic skis. If he wants to skate instead of doing the classic stride, I’m sure he can afford to groom the paths. Grooming really just requires a fancy snowmobile. | |
| ▲ | germinalphrase 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Potentially. Depending on the style of skiing, you may only need a 2-3 ft wide pathway. That said, ski paths tend to be cleared of trees/large rocks and span about 10-15 feet wide. | |
| ▲ | rafram 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Who said it's a virgin old-growth forest? | | |
| ▲ | Ekaros 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I too doubt it is actually old-growth. Probably industrial forest. Which means that there is plenty of space around most of the trees. |
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| ▲ | daneel_w 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | It might not get to remain a virgin old-growth forest. If the Swedish logging companies can get away with it, he probably can, too. |
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| ▲ | cryptolobster 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It still seems a bit strange | |
| ▲ | mahboi 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ok that makes a lot more sense |
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| ▲ | fhdkweig 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Trying to buy himself back into heaven, like Bill Gates did. We only have the article's quotation for evidence, but it does say: > Karp made the purchase through his newly registered company Cladonia Skog AB. The chairman of Cladonia told the Swedish newspaper that the land provides valuable habitat for wildlife and space for recreation. | | | |
| ▲ | unreal6 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | It is well known he loves to nordic ski https://fortune.com/well/2023/02/03/billionaire-palantir-ceo... |
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| ▲ | Naillik 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What are your reasons for assuming that would be the motive of the Palantir founder? | |
| ▲ | jacquesm 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why would you assume that? | |
| ▲ | popalchemist 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | why the hell would you assume altruism of the man who takes pride in killing people with automations | |
| ▲ | mcarper826 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | agreed |
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| ▲ | eichin 21 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Maybe he wants his own version of Nathan's estate in Ex Machina (redditor calculations from in-movie clues put it at 7 million hectares, though, so this isn't even close :-) |