| ▲ | Musk, the Movie(bleeckerstreetmedia.com) |
| 102 points by yablak 2 hours ago | 24 comments |
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| ▲ | rabidonrails 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| I just don't understand why this trailer starts with Musk accusing Gibney of this being a hit piece, then a snarky response from Gibney...and then a full trailer that sounds like a hit piece. Maybe it's warranted maybe it isn't but it sure seems like Musk was right to be concerned. |
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| ▲ | someothherguyy 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | musk can generate a rebuttal and cite it as an example on https://grokipedia.com/page/hit_piece | |
| ▲ | ajross 3 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I... just don't understand your confusion? Of course it's a "hit piece". There's a market for hit pieces because there are people willing to pay to see content aimed at their favorite targets. And the trailer starts with Musk sniping to substantiate what it's about and clarify who its for. Maybe it's that you think "hit piece" means "illigitimate?". Documentary cinema is absolutely allowed to have perspective. Musk's own communication is hardly unbiased or coolly considered, and he's been known to engage in some "creative advocacy" of his own. Would you apply the same logic there? My own opinion is that he's a complicated guy and a seemingly textbook bipolar case with a lot of good technical instincts and a really destructive egomaniacal streak. He could do with some hit pieces, honestly. |
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| ▲ | jfoster 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In the trailer, there's this line: "When Musk says that the future of humanity is to colonize Mars, he is selling us dreams. That's not happening." That irritates me a lot. Everything extremely difficult (or thought to be impossible) is a dream until someone (or some company) works hard on it and invests in it for a long time. Those that would criticize Musk & SpaceX for chipping away at this seem to be effectively saying "do not try." |
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| ▲ | gregschlom 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Funny, for me it's the opposite: I get extremely irritated when Musk or someone else says the future of humanity is to colonize Mars. If you think you can turn a bare rock into a livable planet, please do something about Earth and global warming first. | | | |
| ▲ | hackyhacky 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No one doubts that the work is difficult. The criticism, as the trailer makes clear in context, is not that the company is not making adequate progress, but rather that the public statements made by Musk about the progress of the company are not honest. | |
| ▲ | jcranmer 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There are, I think, two things that the documentary is trying to do with this statement. The first is to remind people that even visionaries selling their actions on a noble cause must still be evaluated for the negative consequences of their actions. In this case, Musk is known to be the cause of quite a few deaths in the world thanks to things like eliminating USAID [1]. People like him need to be fairly evaluated not just on the good they might potentially unlock in the future, but the evil they are unlocking today. The second thing is to point out that Musk may not be entirely honest about trying to colonize Mars, just as some politicians may campaign on a promise to make a country great again while robbing blind the rubes who vote for them. [1] Although I think Mark Zuckerberg still beats him in the deadliest tech CEO race, given the role that Facebook plays in the Rohingya genocide. | |
| ▲ | popalchemist 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They are chipping away but their real motive is not mars colonization; that is a story designed to serve the venture capital needs of here and now. That's the truth and that is what is being said here; it is not a denial that the chipping away is happening, it is a characterization of the why and how. | |
| ▲ | stetrain 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Musk collects investment money for those dreams, but the dreams change every round. Now it’s AI data centers in space, Mars is old news. |
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| ▲ | dhab an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If this got onto Netflix, might have a wider audience |
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| ▲ | dfxm12 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | HBO owns the rights, and it is intended to end up on HBO/HBOMax as a four part series. Interestingly, HBO's parent company is merging with Paramount, owned by David Ellison. Ellison is asking Musk for money to invest in this new company. So, Musk might end up owning it in the end... |
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| ▲ | paul7986 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Here is the trailer... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY_8SyndC10 |
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| ▲ | yanhangyhy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i do hope they can release it in china. chinese people do have a postive view of him. |
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| ▲ | Lerc an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I would like to see an accurate representation of what it is that is p with Elon Musk, but I doubt there will be an objective analysis possible until the impact of the analysis is purely one of historical record. Even then history isn't terribly objective, it just tends to be better than what is said when those who say things can gain or lose advantage based upon what they say. |
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| ▲ | clumsysmurf an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Hopefully the word gets out, because "The Major Social Media Platforms Are All Rejecting Paid Ads for Alex Gibney’s ‘Musk’" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/elon-musk... |
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| ▲ | SadErn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Politics are so 2016. I just want a normal boring run of American ingenuity. I feel like we're all required to declare fealty to a billionaire warlord and latch to their propaganda. |
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| ▲ | stetrain 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Does it count if your warlord was Dolly Parton, who could have easily been a billionaire if she wasn’t so busy investing back into her community? |
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| ▲ | bix6 21 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Wow this guy has more kids than Nick Cannon |