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esseph 6 hours ago

I am hearing from multiple people in hiring departments at different companies that they are doing 7-9 rounds of interviews for non-coding tech roles.

These companies have lost their minds.

darth_avocado 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

7-9 rounds just means 7-9 conversations. Just talking to a recruiter and the manager are 2 rounds. So 5-7 interviews that evaluate competency. You usually get the lower end unless you ended up giving mixed signals.

Sounds like asking a lot from candidates but unfortunately candidates lie a lot and the cost of hiring candidates that don’t match up to the requirements when paying $300k-$500k/year is just too high. Firing people is hard and takes a long time, especially in management roles. My personal guidance to managers is to have rounds match the level and experience required for the job. You can hire an intern with 2 rounds after the hiring manager conversation but a staff IC probably needs 5, directors need 7.

esseph 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm talking about 7-9 rounds for non tech companies, and each round is at least an hour plus interview. These roles aren't even hitting the $200k marker.

alistairSH 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That sounds pretty insane to me.

IME (hiring, not interviewing) it's always been 3-4 rounds. First is an HR phone screen (usually 20-30 minutes on the phone), 2nd with hiring manager, 3rd with a senior engineer/architect, and a 4th with the hiring VP. And those are almost always combined into a single morning or afternoon(2+3 or 3+4) and the final round doesn't always happen (VP's choice).

Plasmoid 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's an effect of "once burned twice shy". Every time there was a "bad" hire they had to change things. People add to the list but no one ever wants to advocate for a lighter process since they might be blamed for it.

gib444 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's just cruel

pixl97 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe the cruelty is the point? They are looking for people that will put up with bullshit and suffering?

whstl 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'd say it's more incompetence than cruelty. People (edit: I mean companies) have options and don't know how to filter, so they just go nuts in the worst possible way.

smcg 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Or they don't have options and have to put up with it.

whstl 4 hours ago | parent [-]

From the candidates point of view, that's definitely the case.

gib444 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh absolutely. And psychopaths enjoying inflicting the torture