I was hoping there will be news on Rails 9.0. Feels like this is the end of Ruby Rails.

Hey is not even a Ruby Rails App anymore. And indirectly admitting Ruby is slow considering they manage to cut 99.9% of CPU with their rewrite in Rust.

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an0malous a day ago | parent | next [-]

I hadn't connected the dots until you mentioned it, but yeah this keynote indirectly says it's the end of Ruby and Rails. Ruby was designed to be coded by humans, and DHH says it's the end of coding by hand.

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stefanlindbohm 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Those performance numbers mean nothing considering they went from rendering every single view of a highly interactive app solely on their servers to moving all rendering to the clients. It’s possible the backend logic of the app could have run on 10 hosts running Ruby as well.

I agree it seems like the end of Ruby on Rails. I personally hope a fork will come along as a spiritual successor, because I still love building web apps this way.

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rramon a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agents might pick up Topcoat (inspired by Rails) as the framework for those Rust apps.

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fantasizr a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

it is sorta sad that framework development will dry up with fewer incentives.

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sergiotapia an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I actually believe new frameworks and languages will pop up that are explicitly made to supercharge agentic engineering workflows. We're still super duper extra early! November last year was the START of all this. We're still in September! Not even one year has passed!

Where will we be in 5 years?

Examples:

https://dioxuslabs.com/

https://lean-lang.org/

It doesn't make much sense to use a human language like Ruby and leave so much on the table when you can use a language like Rust or C to squeeze a LOT more out of correctness/types/performance.

	▲	sroerick 8 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		This is my first attempt at a AI framework and I'm pretty happy with it https://pricklypear.rocks/

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ksec 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Unfortunately yes because Rails has always been a framework of extraction. Now they are not even coding anymore there is nothing to extract. No one is a programmer but everyone is a maker.

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