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▲ fantasizr 2 days ago

it is sorta sad that framework development will dry up with fewer incentives.

▲ksec 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Unfortunately yes because Rails has always been a framework of extraction. Now they are not even coding anymore there is nothing to extract. No one is a programmer but everyone is a maker.

▲sergiotapia a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I actually believe new frameworks and languages will pop up that are explicitly made to supercharge agentic engineering workflows. We're still super duper extra early! November last year was the START of all this. We're still in September! Not even one year has passed!

Where will we be in 5 years?

Examples:

https://dioxuslabs.com/

https://lean-lang.org/

It doesn't make much sense to use a human language like Ruby and leave so much on the table when you can use a language like Rust or C to squeeze a LOT more out of correctness/types/performance.

▲springtimesun 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is a question I have been circling around. The agents are good at Ruby/Rails. It’s probably a confluence of things, but whether the L in LLM benefits from Ruby’s emphasis on human readability is something I’d love to see a study on. Or more generally, how key is (human) language itself in the performance ceiling of LLMs. A machine specific coding language/framework/process could obviously be more efficient, but if language itself is the hard limit, those would be dead in the water with LLMs. Or put another way: if language wasn’t the ceiling, why didn’t we see machine first coding implementations before LLMs?

▲mattbrewsbytes a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We're going to have a bunch of hardly used libraries/frameworks that might converge on a single one. Similar to the surge in JS frameworks/libraries from a few years back and where we are now.

Is squeezing a lot more performance beneficial to a business? or is it a small amount of VPS cost per month difference?

It helps to be clear, at least with yourself, about if you're doing something because you can/want to or if there are actual business reasons.

▲sroerick a day ago | parent | prev [-]

This is my first attempt at a AI framework and I'm pretty happy with it

https://pricklypear.rocks/