> kills all reinforcement learning

I have the opposite experience. My intellectual curiosity has increased immensely since starting to use Chat GPT. I can snap a picture and instantly know what kind of bug I am looking at, whether I am looking at a Red-Tailed hawk or a Red-Shouldered hawk and how to tell the difference, what the gauges on my water tank and boiler mean, and numerous other things that I am curious about daily.

These are things around me that I wouldn't have bothered to investigate just due to time and effort. And now I appreciate all these little curiosities more than ever.

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0c3ca83 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

So tell me about the red tailed hawk. Why is it interesting, and how will you apply that in your life?

According to current theories of learning, the best learning happens at the point of struggle, where you internalize that you went down a wrong path, and needed to backtrack. What part of the struggle of learning did you experience as a result of this, and how did it reshape other thought patterns?

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petcat an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't know what to tell you, it's just a tool man. Like a Google search or a trip to the library.

Why don't you tell me about your struggle to research and discover all the science and technology behind indoor plumbing so you don't have to take a shit in the yard, or in your pants?

	▲	0c3ca83 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I don't think I ever pitched plumbing as a tool for learning (though, I did learn a lot by repairing it myself).

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j4yav 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Being able to look something up real quick isn’t the same as knowing something, is it, especially in the specific absence of some reinforcement mechanism to retain it?

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petcat an hour ago | parent [-]

This is suggesting that I can only know something if I had to painstakingly research and discover it myself?

	▲	j4yav an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I just mean that I’ve been able to casually look things up once in a moment of curiosity on the internet since the 90s. This did not lead to memorising all those interesting facts, much less understanding them, and I’m not sure what the mechanism is that would lead to that sort of knowledge acquisition. If anything I’ve probably learned less because I know I can just look something up I’d have otherwise needed to learn. And in any case, actually learning hasn’t resulted in a collection of random otherwise unrelated facts I can remember, but understanding systems and relationships. The knowledge I have learned has indeed come from what might arguably be described as, maybe not as painstaking, but certainly something with intention and effort. To me it sounds like you’re describing learning to write by having ChatGPT write essays for you. You don’t actually know how to identify birds, you know how to ask your phone to do it for you. Though I can understand the illusion this may cause you to feel. I get the same when I watch high level chess players play, and then am reminded what I can actually do my next game.
	▲	buellerbueller 15 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Wasn't that the exact point of Terrence Tao's "A Severe Misalignment of AI in Mathematics"? [1] [1] https://mathandai.org/
	▲	jplusequalt an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		No, but your example of being able to quickly look something up doesn't back up your claim that AI will boost everyone's ability to learn.

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ipsod 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same.

Reminds me of this cartoon: https://imgur.com/life-before-google-q0eP1Rg

"Life Before Google: A Short Story"

dog: I just thought of something I'd like to know more about.

rabbit: That's a damn shame.

THE END

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vablings an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean for me personally I have always had an obsession for knowing these things anyways, it just lowered the barrier to entry for me a little bit in terms of information gathering

First I went from asking my parents then reading lots of books then specifically researching on google and forums now for most general knowledge information I can just ask AI

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jplusequalt an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

>These are things around me that I wouldn't have bothered to investigate just due to time and effort. And now I appreciate all these little curiosities more than ever.

I think you're conflating access to information with genuine learning.