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armadyl a day ago

As someone who has daily driven both side by side as much as I love GOS, AOSP / Android absolutely does not feel premium compared to iOS. Both the UI and UX are rough compared to the polish of iOS. And the FOSS apps on Android are extremely subpar in terms of feel compared to iOS (off the top of my head look at how bad the Fossify Contacts app is compared to Google Contacts) but that’s the trade-off.

I also don’t think there will be Motorola devices with GOS out of the box, they’re just meeting the requirements to be able install it.

Cider9986 a day ago | parent | next [-]

> I also don’t think there will be Motorola devices with GOS out of the box, they’re just meeting the requirements to be able install it.

"There's a high chance." https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117299954135808210

In other posts they've said they will be sold with GrapheneOS out of the box.

armadyl a day ago | parent [-]

Oh damn nice. Guess we’ll also see later today too since the Signature should be revealed at the snapdragon summit

Cider9986 a day ago | parent [-]

We did not see. Unfortunately.

microtonal a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Both the UI and UX are rough compared to the polish of iOS.

Sorry, but no.

I also have an iPhone for $REASONS. Both my prior iPhone Air and my new iPhone 18 Pro still frequently stutters. Even scrolling some settings screens (which are very simple), I can often see frames getting dropped. Apple apps like the App Store are one huge frame-dropfest (even if you let it preload all assets). Apple can't get a nearly 1500 Euro phone with the fastest single-core performance and probably the fastest GPU to render normal window chrome smoothly anymore.

My P10P with GrapheneOS, which only has a midrange SoC by modern standards (don't believe what Google tells you) and it is buttery smooth.

iOS got even more terrible with Liquid Glass, so many things are badly readable, even with the slider set to completely opaque in iOS 27.

iOS used to be premium compared to Android. But Apple enshittified iOS over the last few years. Even most Apple pundits agree.

Since people seem to disagree because they simply cannot see it, here are two recordings at 0.5x speed so that even people who are not sensitive to stutters can see it:

https://drive.proton.me/urls/S24N1S17XG#56iNGffWKqZr

https://drive.proton.me/urls/DH527V6GRR#625BpPuAcYPb

cyberax a day ago | parent | prev [-]

iOS? "Polish"?

Even AOSP is head-and-shoulders better than iOS.

armadyl a day ago | parent [-]

It is subjective, to me AOSP just feels extremely rough and undercooked in a lot of places

cyberax a day ago | parent [-]

Try disabling animations in AOSP and see how it feels. You won't be able to go to the painfully slow iOS afterwards.

duskdozer 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

When I see "polish" they're usually referring to the opposite of things like this. They seem to like sluggish UI as long as it's "smooth" (not "fast") and has flashy animations.

Melatonic a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Seriously - first thing I do in any Android device in developer options

cyberax a day ago | parent [-]

You don't even need developer settings for that, there's an official option in the accessibility settings.