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Vinnl 3 hours ago

I get the annoyance at "ask me again later", but "maybe later" or "not now" is helpful - there's no way to trigger dialogs by yourself, so this is a promise that even if you say "no" in the dialog, you can still go into settings to change your mind. Gives me less anxiety about the choice.

yxhuvud 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Then build better interfaces. Don't ask stupid or nefarious questions.

MaxikCZ 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How about a choice: both "no, maybe later" and "no, never"

Vinnl 3 hours ago | parent [-]

And "no, never" would irreversibly remove the option from settings?

ga_to 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It would never prompt again.

Vinnl 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That's is the same as what "Not now" and "Maybe later" would (should) do.

Only "ask me again later" is the one that prompts you again. That's why I do mind that one, and appreciate the other ones.

latexr an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Have you ever seen an app where upon responding to a dialog, an option is irrevocably removed from settings? The conversation is about “no” meaning “don’t bother me again with this question unprompted” (which used to be the norm), not “rewrite your own binary to remove the choice”.

latexr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A much better way would be “Yes” and “No” with a small message of “you can change this later in the Settings”.

Or have three buttons: “Yes”, “No”, “Remind me Later”. Apple does stuff like that in other parts of the OS, like when asking for app permissions, so they clearly know how to do it.

Vinnl 3 hours ago | parent [-]

"Remind me later" means "bug me again with a dialog in the future", which is not what I want. I don't need to be reminded, but if I change my mind in the future, I want to be able to proactively go and change it.

Yes, more text can be another way to provide the message, but if you've ever done any user testing, you'll know that people at best scan through your UI. I know I wouldn't read that, or at least would prefer not to have to read that.

I guess I don't see why "No" combined with "You can change this later in settings" is so much less offensive than "Not now".

latexr an hour ago | parent [-]

> "Remind me later" means "bug me again with a dialog in the future", which is not what I want.

But it is what Apple and others do, and what the conversation is about. Sounds like you want what everyone else does (a “no”) but are just arguing over the specific wording of the message.