I'll say they definitely need to let people disable/offload the model, but if you haven't tried the new Siri, it's been great. Obviously it's not a state of the art LLM, but it's good enough, and the fact that it can search and take actions on your local data makes it incredibly useful. I definitely use it more on my iPhone where it's slower to get things done the traditional way, but I use it all the time now.

"What was the quote for my insurance claim?" - it'll look through your emails and pull the number with the source email so you can jump right to it.

The other day I asked "when did I arrive and leave Mexico City on my trip at the end of 2024?" and it nailed it based off my flight receipt.

Since learning Spanish I get a lot more Spanish stuff in my feeds, and if I e.g. don't understand a meme I'll just ask "explain the joke here" and it reads the screen and explains it.

You can have an article open in Safari and say "remind me to read this tonight" and it'll make a reminder with the link. Or you can modify reminders - "move my reminder to get groceries to tomorrow at the same time". Yesterday I told it to make me a reminder and it did, but I worded it in a clunky way so I followed it with "reword that to sound more natural" and it did it.

We've been trained for a long time to think Siri can't do anything but I urge you to try it once you're on the new one, it's quite good. And I'm sure I've barely touched all the things it can do. David Pogue published a pretty thorough test other day:

https://pogueman.substack.com/p/125-tests-of-the-new-ai-siri

▲ nunez 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Siri AI is very capable, but *I* should have control over when and whether *I* decide to enable or completely delete it.

I wasn't expecting Apple to force-feed the AI into my mouth with this new Siri release, but turning "Apple Intelligence" into "Siri AI" and removing the opt-out toggle is gross.

(You can't disable all of other fka Apple Intelligence stuff without disabling Siri AI, and you can't disable Siri AI without switching your Siri language to an unsupported region and turning a bunch of stuff off in Content Privacy and Restrictions. On Watch, Siri is front and center of your Suggested Apps carousel --- which they removed Recent Apps to create, an extremely useful feature --- unless you change YOUR ENTIRE WATCH'S REGION to some other unsupported country. None of this is okay.)

Anecdotally, I can do all of the stuff you've listed can be done without Siri AI or "Classic" Siri and get correct answers almost 100% of the time.

	▲	lynndotpy 43 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		As a side note, the Apple Watch changes have completely made Camera Remote unusable for me, a feature I loved. I don't know why, but I usually can only get Camera Remote to work when I close all of the recent apps on my Apple Watch, even when my watch and phone were the newest ones Apple released. Probably a bug with memory management they're never going to fix. Now, that's not possible, even when I reboot my watch :(
	▲	m463 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Like all macos features you used to like/depend on... "privacy is a right" becomes privacy is a "defaults write <obscure-key>"

▲ lynndotpy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Our experiences diverge surprisingly far. The new Siri was worse for everything I use it for before I turned it off.

The new Siri can not reliably return the weather (it seems it's prompting on the literal text of the town and asks for a clarification sometimes about whether I am in the United States or United Kingdom), and when I ask "what is the air quality index", the new Siri would sometimes return the definition of AQI. When it returns a value, new Siri would hallucinate an incorrect and fixed value. In the cases where it does work, it's very much slower than the classic "rainbow orb" Siri.

▲ alwillis 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A couple of things I've done with Apple Intelligence on the Mac:

* When I need a prescription refilled, the quickest way is to message my doctor using the patient portal. I created a Shortcut that lets me pick among 5 medications; Apple Intelligence then generates a message with the request to the clipboard which I paste into the message field and send.

* I have a Shortcut that creates a morning summary: Apple Intelligence generates the weather report. I also get what’s on today's calendar and any current or past-due Reminders.

Just scratching the surface here; will flesh these out more later and create some new ones now that I'm running the release version of Golden Gate and not the beta.

▲ vinni2 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not sure if I want Siri to know my prescription medication.

▲ alwillis 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Not sure if I want Siri to know my prescription medication.

Using Shortcuts, a user can use the Cloud model via Private Cloud Compute, the Cloud Pro with "world knowledge, and the on-device model. It occurred to me I probably don't need the Cloud; I switched to the on-device model, which worked fine.

There's no way for Siri or anybody else to know anything about a transaction using Private Cloud Compute:

    We designed Private Cloud Compute to make several guarantees about
    the way it handles user data [1]:
    
    A user’s device sends data to PCC for the sole, exclusive purpose of
    fulfilling the user’s inference request. PCC uses that data only to
    perform the operations requested by the user. User data stays on the
    PCC nodes that are processing the request only until the response is
    returned. PCC deletes the user’s data after fulfilling the request,
    and no user data is retained in any form after the response is
    returned. User data is never available to Apple — even to staff with
    administrative access to the production service or hardware.

[1]: https://security.apple.com/blog/private-cloud-compute/

	▲	vinni2 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I am sorry no amount of assurances from any company is going to make me reveal my medical information to products from any tech company.

▲ hbn 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The Apple Intelligence Shortcuts creation is great as well. I never had a desire to learn their visual programming language so I mostly ignored Shortcuts. Now it's one-shot some really handy utilities for me.

▲ alwillis 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Posted: "Turn off and restrict access to Apple Intelligence features on Mac" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49790409

Not a bad list from Apple.

▲ Merad 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is it able to work with non default apps like Gmail?

	▲	hbn 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Not the Gmail app, but a Gmail account, yes. You have to at least have the default Mail app installed and signed in for it to be able to index the emails.