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TechTechTech 7 hours ago

If the ICC gets sanctioned there will probably be a big boost in EU companies leaving USA services for good. Many are already very seriously talking about it, but need to be 'pushed' a bit more.

The previous ICC sanctions started a lot of discussion in the EU. For example, people loose not only access to Microsoft services but also bank/credit card (Visa is USA). https://www.theguardian.com/law/2026/feb/18/international-cr...

EU is slow, but poke it enough and it will leave USA services (and then never come back). For example, Nextcloud can substitute MS365, ICC itself did so after the previous sanctions: https://delta.tudelft.nl/en/article/international-criminal-c...

mytailorisrich 6 hours ago | parent [-]

The EU has become ever more dependent on the US in the past few years, notably on energy and AI.

There is a lot of noise on what you mention but the reality is rather different.

disgruntledphd2 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The EU has become ever more dependent on the US in the past few years, notably on energy and AI.

Energy yes, particularly since the Iran war started. AI, not really. Like most Europeans are using US models, but the switching costs are so low here that they could easily swap these out for Chinese models.

It's the cloud/hyperscaler dependencies that are the real problems here.

mytailorisrich 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, they run US models on US hardware and there is no alternative. In principle there are indeed Chinese models, but in practice there are also political considerations.

Europe pretty much does not exist in AI and the political considerations at this point push it towards overwhelming dependency on the US.

croes an hour ago | parent [-]

US hardware with chips made in Taiwan created with European lithography systems?

croes an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe we shouldn’t act like the US aren’t dependent on the rest of the world. Let’s look at US debt