It’s pretty tiny too, so not a road trip car IMHO.

That said, coupled with home solar to power it, this is a very cheap way to get on the road and I will likely go this direction in future - one of these for the city and something a bit bigger/more rugged to go bush once in a while.

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defrost 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> a bit bigger/more rugged to go bush once in a while.

Depends whether you're taking the Birdsville track or the Bibbulmun track really.

The shorter one can be done a on a red postie bike, the longer one won't even need that :-)

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Nursie 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Been thinking more along the lines of the Munda-biddy actually :)

But I haven’t got on my bike for a few years now because at the moment all my spare energy goes on managing our plot. There’s always something needs moving, sawing, building, repairing, digging… So I’ve gone from having a (pudgy) cyclist’s physique with very strong calves to more of a farmer’s build with bigger arm and shoulder muscles than I’ve ever had before and a big ‘ol belly.

But in all seriousness I also like to go remote once in a while and access national parks. I’m not going to be hooning it round destroying dunes, but getting to beautiful places like Cape Peron is tough without a the right vehicle.

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defrost 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I've been through the Bungles on a push bike - so that's a thing, but yeah, Cape Peron would be a hard slog without a boat or vehicle that can push across deep sand - water would be a tough carry.

> without the right vehicle

A loong time ago (late 1970s) I got to traverse the horizontal falls a couple of time in a home made sea kayak after being dropped off "nearby" (and later picked up again) by an old pearling lugger .. pretty low carbon effort that one, just a lot of paddling (and fishing, and digging for fresh water, and dodging the odd shark and salty croc).

	▲	Nursie 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Nice, I have great respect but also a level of “WTF” when encountering cyclists in the deep wilds, especially in the heat! Passed an old guy on a pushbike with a trailer on the nullabor in 2010 and just thought “wow, that’s commitment”

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rightnutwingjob 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

$20k for the car plus $5k for roof top solar, plus $500,000 for the house to put it on.

Or: a $2000 Corolla and the rental home you’re already in.

	▲	dbetteridge 8 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		500k doesn't get you much house in Australia these days, try double that.
	▲	luipugs 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		$500,000? That's just the price for the garage.
	▲	andrew_lettuce 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		That's great if you already have a clean, high mileage Corolla or Accord, but good luck finding one for 2k
	▲	Nursie 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I’m not in a rental home, and wouldn’t be anyway. I want solar and a battery (don’t have it yet, it’s on the list) to cut my energy bills and guard against power cuts anyway. So neither of these things is an ‘extra’ expense for me getting a small EV. There are a total of 5 corollas available in Australia for $2k or less. Each one is ratty, beat up and 19+ years old, I wouldn’t want to chance taking any of them on the freeway, and you’d still have to fuel them.