> a bit bigger/more rugged to go bush once in a while.

Depends whether you're taking the Birdsville track or the Bibbulmun track really.

The shorter one can be done a on a red postie bike, the longer one won't even need that :-)

Been thinking more along the lines of the Munda-biddy actually :)

But I haven’t got on my bike for a few years now because at the moment all my spare energy goes on managing our plot. There’s always something needs moving, sawing, building, repairing, digging… So I’ve gone from having a (pudgy) cyclist’s physique with very strong calves to more of a farmer’s build with bigger arm and shoulder muscles than I’ve ever had before and a big ‘ol belly.

But in all seriousness I also like to go remote once in a while and access national parks. I’m not going to be hooning it round destroying dunes, but getting to beautiful places like Cape Peron is tough without a the right vehicle.

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defrost 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I've been through the Bungles on a push bike - so that's a thing, but yeah, Cape Peron would be a hard slog without a boat or vehicle that can push across deep sand - water would be a tough carry.

> without the right vehicle

A loong time ago (late 1970s) I got to traverse the horizontal falls a couple of time in a home made sea kayak after being dropped off "nearby" (and later picked up again) by an old pearling lugger .. pretty low carbon effort that one, just a lot of paddling (and fishing, and digging for fresh water, and dodging the odd shark and salty croc).

	▲	Nursie 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Nice, I have great respect but also a level of “WTF” when encountering cyclists in the deep wilds, especially in the heat! Passed an old guy on a pushbike with a trailer on the nullabor in 2010 and just thought “wow, that’s commitment”