| ▲ | bix6 3 hours ago |
| And all the republicans will still vote red for the lying, cheating, grifting man. All my life I have had faith in the governments reports and statistics for the most part. This admin has torn everything down and for what? |
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| ▲ | atmavatar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| For a sizable fraction of people, when the facts conflict with their biases, they choose to reject the facts and double-down on their biases. |
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| ▲ | lokar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Racism is a very powerful belief system. | | |
| ▲ | shermantanktop 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | -isms of all kind are powerful. But the most powerful are those that give the believer a distant group of people for them to blame for all their troubles, which are often self-inflicted. | | |
| ▲ | anonymous_user9 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Are you saying that calling people racist is the worst bigotry? | | |
| ▲ | mitxela an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | no they're agreeing racism is bad | |
| ▲ | zmgsabst 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | False accusations of racism (and similar moral slander) is the first step in dehumanizing an outgroup. | | |
| ▲ | solid_fuel an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > False accusations of racism (and similar moral slander) is the first step in dehumanizing an outgroup. Accurately describing the racism that motivates the politics and actions of a group is the first step in addressing the way they dehumanize their opponents. | |
| ▲ | bix6 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Pretty fascinating dem vs rep split. Dems say everyone experiences racism. Reps say white people experience it. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/05/20/views-of-how... | | |
| ▲ | zmgsabst an hour ago | parent [-] | | We must be reading different charts — the only one I can see has consistent numbers among Republicans (50%) but high numbers for Democrats (90%) except for Whites (20%). So your characterization is completely wrong: Republicans mildly think everybody does, while Democrats deny white people do. | | |
| ▲ | bix6 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | We must be on different planets since America and its institutions are majority white. > 94% of Democrats say Black people face at least some discrimination, compared with 54% of Republicans.
90% of Democrats say the same about Hispanic people, compared with 54% of Republicans.
83% of Democrats say Asian people face widespread discrimination, versus 51% of Republicans.
By contrast, Republicans are far more likely than Democrats to say that White people face at least some discrimination (55% vs. 21%). |
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| ▲ | an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | [deleted] |
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| ▲ | maxerickson 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | More likely something like describing Trumpism. |
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| ▲ | airstrike 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | From an outsider's perspective, it's to be expected given the existence of cognitive dissonance. I just wish people would snap out of it _eventually_ |
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| ▲ | silisili 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| People tend to vote with their wallets in mind more than anything. I think that's why it ping ponged(inflation), and why they're getting destroyed in the midterm polling. The next president will likely have a D next to their name(more inflation). |
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| ▲ | jimt1234 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I heard a good quote once: People don't vote to say thank you. People vote to say fuck you. | | |
| ▲ | PorciiVorbesc an hour ago | parent [-] | | >People don't vote to say thank you. How true is that? Plenty of older people I know vote consistently for one party because it did something good for them a long time ago. |
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| ▲ | 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | HumblyTossed 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don't trust polling. | |
| ▲ | dylan604 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Both times Trump won, the polls predicted he would lose. | | |
| ▲ | PenguinCoder 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Legally can't run a third time or be voted for again. But then again, legality hasn't stopped the things he does. Others need to step up. | | |
| ▲ | mitxela an hour ago | parent [-] | | They reinterpreted the constitution to say no president can be presidentmore than twice consecutively, even though it doesn't say that. Like how in Russia, the constitution obviously meant to say Putin will always be the president. |
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| ▲ | ceejayoz 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not by anything like the 8-9 points we're seeing in midterm polling right now. |
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| ▲ | dfxm12 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Trump was president before. People didn't vote for him a second time if they wanted to improve the economy. | |
| ▲ | zmgsabst 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Trump himself only happened because Ds abandoned the working class for grievance politics circa 2010 — forming “public private partnerships” to tear open old wounds while screwing the working class on behalf of corporations. | | |
| ▲ | mitxela an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Ds are doing neither. They're just pretending if they don't change anything, everything will be alright. | |
| ▲ | clipsy 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | You're a couple decades late there, it was Clinton and the Third Way(tm) Democrats that abandoned blue collar workers. (Of course, that doesn't capture the full story either -- before '92, white blue collar workers were already abandoning the Democrats to support Reagan while he and the Republicans gutted private sector unions.) |
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| ▲ | yakz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They had a firm belief that the reports and statistics were fake. Let's see how this turns out. *by "they" I mean the voters... the people that were elected were, and are well informed |
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| ▲ | lumost an hour ago | parent [-] | | How confident are we that they know it’s fake? I somehow doubt they close the door and pull out the real information. |
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| ▲ | underlipton 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Still have my fingers crossed that the guy in Kentucky gunning for McConnell's seat can pull off a historic upset. |
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| ▲ | throw2a 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That tells a lot about Christian values |
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| ▲ | pianopatrick an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Time will tell how the votes will go in November. Right now the thing I'm hearing on podcasts is that a significant group of people who voted for Trump in 2024 might stay home. We'll know in less than two months. |
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| ▲ | verdverm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| May I assume you ask "for what?" rhetorically? |
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| ▲ | jimt1234 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > All my life I have had faith in the governments reports and statistics ... My Boomer mother tells me about this all the time. She said, growing up, people had absolute faith in everything the US government did or said; it was like religion. Then Vietnam happened. Specifically, the reporting around Vietnam and the number of casualties. My mother said that everyone knew someone who lost a family member in Vietnam, but the government was like, "Everything's fine." |
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| ▲ | bix6 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yeah I’m more talking things like the census. Or the report that they skipped a month of this year (inflation, jobs, I can’t recall for certain). |
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| ▲ | darubedarob 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | jimt1234 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > ...and for what? To keep the grift going, of course. |
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| ▲ | Buttons840 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's fair to say, but lacks details. Most of Trump's public statements are done through a company that he owns. That same company charges a modest $100,000 per month for early access to his posts; just straight up facilitating insider trading for the President's personal profit. Plus people might find the administration making decision in their favor while paying the $100,000 a month. There's also Trumpcoin through which people can transfer money to the President. This just happens in the open. Remember when Trump had personal 1-on-1 meetings with the top Trumpcoin holders? I remember. I've barely scratched the surface here. Trump's personal worth has increased $3,000,000,000 during his second term, so far. Corruption has existed before, but it has never been this out in the open. | | |
| ▲ | kraken_cult 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Which can only probably be a benefit. If the corruption is this blatant and bad maybe the next swing around the pendulum there is less because people realize how much it's bad. | | |
| ▲ | Buttons840 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Is secret corruption or open corruption worse? It's an interesting question; each has unique cons. I will say that open corruption is only better if people recognize it as corruption. The people in my life do not know about the things I mentioned, and they don't care to learn about it. | |
| ▲ | dfxm12 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It'll remain bad unless these people face the proper punishment for selling out the country. |
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