| ▲ | nullorempty 14 hours ago |
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| ▲ | fabian2k 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Russia invaded a sovereign country. Period. Europe and everyone else is entirely justified under international law to provide assistance to Ukraine to defend itself. Regarding your edit, Russia doesn't have the right to dictate neighbouring countries which alliances they can form. What you're doing here is denying Ukraine its sovereignty, just like Russia does. |
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| ▲ | nullorempty 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Well then stop complaining and prepare for war as the article suggests. I can not believe the europe would risk all its heritage and for what? | | |
| ▲ | azan_ 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > I can not believe the europe would risk all its heritage and for what? Quite contrary - Europe is preserving it's heritage. Remember that russia does not want to stop with Ukraine - for example they want Poland to quit NATO. What right do they have to tell other sovereign country what it can do? | | | |
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| ▲ | Lumich 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | tomhow 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Could you please make an effort to observe the guidelines if you want to participate here? These ones in particular need to be heeded: Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html |
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| ▲ | seabrookmx 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The war they didn't start? Typically when there's a clear aggressor who initiates a conflict to grab land and resources, you blame them. |
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| ▲ | dofm 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Are you not essentially saying that Ukraine is partly to blame for the conflict for not wanting to roll over? We arm and support Ukraine in their war because a tyrannical neighbour led by an autocrat is intent on taking its territory and he will not negotiate on ending it. It's that fucking simple. Fuck him for starting it; if he won't end it, Ukraine and their allies get to make things difficult. Your interpretation is contemptuous. |
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| ▲ | Buxato 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| As we should do, Mr. Chamberlain. |
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| ▲ | azan_ 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Didn't russia attack Ukraine? |
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| ▲ | nullorempty 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | What were the Minsk agreements for? | | |
| ▲ | azan_ 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Good point - we must remember that russia attacked Ukraine already in 2014, Ukraine agreed to their conditions and it still did not prevent russia from wanting more. History repeats itself - appeasement never works. |
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| ▲ | nullorempty 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | azan_ 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, in this case one side (russia) attacked other (Ukraine), which is just defending itself. It's very clear who is the aggressor here. This entire conflict could be prevented if russia did not attack, that's it. | | |
| ▲ | nullorempty 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | I see, you can only count to two. | | |
| ▲ | dofm 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | How do you say that in Russian? I'm sure you think this is smart, but the indisputable fact of how this conflict started remains. Are you suggesting that we don't come to the aid of our friends when they are attacked by our adversaries? That Ukraine does not have the right to support? That it must succeed or fail on its own or it's somehow not sporting? | | | |
| ▲ | azan_ 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ok let's work from the basics. Please answer this question - is russia the aggressor in this war? | | |
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| ▲ | carefree-bob 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | tomhow 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Too many of your recent comments have been inflammatory. Could you please be less combative and more curiously conversational in your style of participation here? These guidelines in particular are important to heed: Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html | |
| ▲ | Jtsummers 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > launching a 20 year bombing and terror campaign against the Donbass > Finally, after eight year of these terror attacks Was it 20 years or 8 years? Those are two very different numbers, and only one has any semblance with reality given that 20 years ago was long before the so-called coup. | |
| ▲ | dofm 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Wow. All of that, in one go? From out of just one arse? | |
| ▲ | azan_ 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is it satire or something that russians actually believe? |
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| ▲ | nullorempty 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Well, the USA too. |
