| ▲ | nomel 5 hours ago |
| > So we move. We force their hand What do you have in mind? |
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| ▲ | PaulCarrack 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > We need to start the long process of hard forking now or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation. |
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| ▲ | luqtas 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | oh yes sure. just like we can shift the population into installing Debian into their machines so we also deter M$ and Apple abuse /s | | |
| ▲ | olyjohn 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We did it before. Thanks to Firefox we broke the IE6 monopoly even on Windows. | | |
| ▲ | mitxela 35 minutes ago | parent [-] | | How did that happen, anyway? Tabs? What's the next killer feature after tabs? Maybe sync? | | |
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| ▲ | Rohansi 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's so much easier to switch browsers than platform/OS. Unless you have an iPhone or iPad. |
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| ▲ | sieabahlpark 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | saghm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm reading your comment on Firefox. You can probably read mine and write a reply on it too! |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Donate to Ladybird https://ladybird.org/ |
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| ▲ | jm4 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They have their own problems. They may be "open source", but they don't accept contributions. I'm skeptical it will ever become more than a hobby project. | | |
| ▲ | tech234a 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Commit activity actually increased after they blocked external contributions in June: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/graphs/commit-ac... | |
| ▲ | ragnese 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is not accepting contributions the only/biggest issue you have with the project? I'm honestly becoming more and more okay with the "cathedral" style of open source. Depending on the project, catering to "the community" can lead a loss of focus, lack of a cohesive "vision" or scope, and just generally trying to be everything to everyone without the resources to maintain a giant beast. With something like a browser (engine), I'm totally okay with someone saying "I'm an expert and I'm trying something with my own vision/priorities. I don't want input from random people that I have to spend time evaluating." | | |
| ▲ | seb1204 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes I can relate to this. Picking good, valuable feedback out of the noise has become a chore. |
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| ▲ | takeda 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's on BSD license, Google or someone else can again Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. |
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| ▲ | shevy-java 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Well, it is time to realise that GPL and similar variants, are better
in the long term. I like MIT too, but GPL worked so much better for the
linux kernel. Google and others abuse the ecosystem of open source
contributors here. |
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| ▲ | microtonal 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | You mean the Linux kernel that the GrapheneOS project has to request every update for and then has to wait up to weeks to get a Google Drive link? The GPL is worth nothing if nobody is enforcing it aggressively. | | |
| ▲ | mitxela 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, as opposed to the Fuchsia kernel where they wouldn't even get that. We're lucky Google is institutionally incapable of creating things. | |
| ▲ | nomel 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Could you quote the part of the GPL that they're not adhering to (which you seem to be implying), in this situation? | |
| ▲ | dvdkon 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The GPL is the only reason they even get that. More enforcement would certainly be good, but it's not like the GPL is worthless without a legal team backing you up. |
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