Remix.run Logo
vel0city 43 minutes ago

> But the problem is that you can't really backup passkeys

The individual passkey? Maybe not. But I don't really need to backup the passkey, I can just have backup passkeys or other backup authenticators, including complicated stored one-time passwords.

To answer your earlier hypothetical, I'm out traveling and I'm mugged. Well, hopefully, I'm not mugged in the part of the travels where I'm carrying truly everything at the moment, and I can just go back to the hotel room and re-auth with a device I saved there Problem solved, no big deal. If I lost truly everything while I'm out, I'd do as suggested elsewhere here and call home to get a trusted friend/family member to read me off the one time password saved at home or whatever, or figure out some way to get me money to get home. Chances are I'll end up having to work with the embassy anyway.

> My issue with passkeys are that they are designed for a reality that don't exist

The reality of passwords being hijacked is absolutely a reality of today and is a constant issue for tons of people.

> I know plenty of people who only have a phone, no other devices.

And I really don't get why we can't also teach these people to also have a little token they use that can also be a part of their online identity. And sure, for certain kinds of accounts have appropriate levels of recoverability, but for the normal authentication workflows its so much better in so many ways.

pixl97 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

At this exact same level I posted this.

>They are designed for a wealthy technologically inclined user with a very stable lifestyle and trusted resources and connections to other people. You know, the exact people who developed them.

And here you go posting

> I'd do as suggested elsewhere here and call home to get a trusted friend/family member to read me off the one time password saved at home or whateve

If you read what I posted you see why you live at a particular place of privileged and are seemingly incapable of putting yourself in another persons position where these things do not hold true.

"If you are a white male earning over 100,000 a year in a stable relationship with living family members, excess savings in the bank, in a stable first world country everything is going to be fine and the rest of you can get fucked" --what you keep repeating in different ways.

vel0city 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

I agree every kind of account should have a reasonable level of recovery process in place.

Also, you're posting incredibly racist and sexist statements here. Why does race and gender matter here?'

Stop being racist. It has no place in discussions in technology.