| ▲ | SoftTalker 2 days ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Yet in the short term, significant transformations have often also produced lower wages for many, hollowed out regional economies, and deepened inequality. "Short term" being rather loosely used? Most industrial regions have never recovered. Look at Gary Indiana, Detroit and surrounding towns, Toledo, other regions that were dependant on manufacturing or mining. Most have been stagnating for decades; few have found a path back to a thriving economy. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | nradov 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It's a multifactorial problem. The decline of heavy manufacturing was one cause of economic stagnation in Detroit. But the failed progressive social policies and lack of effective law enforcement didn't help either. Businesses are hesitant to expand in areas where they can't find reliable employees and where their property isn't secure. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | baron816 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Those places aren’t isolated though. Many of their residents (and especially their children) have left and found opportunities in other parts of the country. Economists tend to prefer policies that help people, not places. Gary, Indiana just doesn’t have any geographical advantages that make it competitive. I think, if anything, the mistake was to allow people in those places to believe there would be an eventual turnaround by trying to prop up uncompetitive manufacturing industries. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | nonameiguess a day ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Not saying these places will universally recover, or even any of them will. There are plenty of secular trends pushing industry to other places. I do think decades is rightly considered short term for city history, though. At various periods in Paris, it's been laid to siege by viking hordes, had its population cut in half by Black Plaque, been occupied by Nazis, the student protests of the 1960s. Still seems to have done all right over the long run of centuries. Doesn't do much for individuals with bounded lifespans and I know that's mostly what we care about as individuals, but the world and arc of history are a lot bigger than us. None of us will ever know what becomes of Detroit in the 22nd century (unless there are 5 year-olds reading this thread), but there are plenty of reasons it may end up a booming metropolis that makes something other than automobiles and the greatest R&B ever put to wax. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||