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| ▲ | Bawoosette 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The $17 figure is Anthropic's monthly cost if purchased annually. I'll use monthly numbers. Anthropic's Pro is $20 and corresponds to Z.ai's Lite at $18 Anthropic's 5x Max is $100 and corresponds to Z.ai's Pro at $80 Anthropic's 20x Max is $200 and corresponds to Z.ai's Max at $168 |
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| ▲ | reacharavindh 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not to digress from the core argument of Claude vs GLM being open weights…. I have both plans. Claude monthly €20 and Z’s €18 monthly. Running GLM-5.3 high on their monthly plan will hit quotas absurdly fast compared to Opus 5 High on Claude code. It’s almost unusable for AI driven development. I ended up using the Z plan for using GLM-5.3 as a detailed security reviewer and adversarial feedback. For that, it is much better than Opus which will flag and bail out for even simple security tasks that are aimed at defense. | | |
| ▲ | SSLy 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | on the 18€ plan they really want people to use Flash and skip the bigger thing. | | |
| ▲ | reacharavindh 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Perhaps.. But, it was enough for a customer like me who tried them at good faith to walk away and find their competitors.. I like the diversity of LLMs as of today and prefer to not tie myself to one big plan with any vendor. If they don’t prefer me as a customer, then I will accept that, and move away. |
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| ▲ | alexjplant 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Just use GLM-5.3 Flash via OpenRouter. It's dirt cheap especially relative to how capable it is. While the Z.ai coding plan was a decent deal in the past I always ran into limiting with it and since I use it intermittently for personal projects my usage wasn't always enough to make the math work - the a la carte pricing via OpenRouter makes this a non-issue. There's also a new free stealth model available that's more likely than not in the GLM family. This seems to happen every few months for a week or two and represents a good savings opportunity. |
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| ▲ | ipsod 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Anthropic: 17 USD (pro), 100 USD (max) GLM: 80 USD (pro), 168 USD (max) -> with "limited-time event" discount this is 56 USD and 117.6 USD GLM's "Max" plan is (was?) equivalent to 3x Claude's 20x ($200) plan. |
