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Bawoosette 3 hours ago

The $17 figure is Anthropic's monthly cost if purchased annually. I'll use monthly numbers.

Anthropic's Pro is $20 and corresponds to Z.ai's Lite at $18

Anthropic's 5x Max is $100 and corresponds to Z.ai's Pro at $80

Anthropic's 20x Max is $200 and corresponds to Z.ai's Max at $168

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reacharavindh 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Not to digress from the core argument of Claude vs GLM being open weights….

I have both plans. Claude monthly €20 and Z’s €18 monthly. Running GLM-5.3 high on their monthly plan will hit quotas absurdly fast compared to Opus 5 High on Claude code. It’s almost unusable for AI driven development. I ended up using the Z plan for using GLM-5.3 as a detailed security reviewer and adversarial feedback. For that, it is much better than Opus which will flag and bail out for even simple security tasks that are aimed at defense.

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SSLy 3 hours ago | parent [-]

on the 18€ plan they really want people to use Flash and skip the bigger thing.

	▲	reacharavindh 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Perhaps.. But, it was enough for a customer like me who tried them at good faith to walk away and find their competitors.. I like the diversity of LLMs as of today and prefer to not tie myself to one big plan with any vendor. If they don’t prefer me as a customer, then I will accept that, and move away.