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tavavex 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Web apps can't fully replace native apps. This would be a bandaid fix, we need a fully open ecosystem for apps, like what is available on PCs. Native apps can run offline, they can be much more deeply integrated into the OS (you can't have a web app Android launcher, for instance), and they have a performance overhead due to having more layers between them and the hardware, which is important for games or anything complex.

	▲	johnecheck 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Web apps can run offline. Google could figure out web app android launchers if they wanted to. The performance overhead exists but is slight. It doesn't matter to 90+% of applications, including many games.
	▲	nicoburns 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I have high hopes for the Rust UI ecosystem in this regard. It's implementing pretty much everything from scratch, which means that it should be able to support a standalone GUI ecosystem that doesn't depend on a system GUI toolkit being available (while also being able to target existing OS's).

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cyanydeez 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

we have an open web. no ones pays for it.

Anyone can put up a PWA. The only org that hates this is Apple.

The complaint is about a shared resource, which would require governments to adopt open source policies and _pay_ for it just like they do the post office.

But ya'll hate government, so here we are.

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nchmy 9 hours ago | parent [-]

why invest in developing a PWA if a significant portion of (particularly wealthy) users cant use it?

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nozzlegear 6 hours ago | parent [-]

How are iOS users not able to use a PWA? Because it takes a few taps to add it to the homescreen? I have several PWAs on my iPhone and I can use them quite well.

	▲	nchmy 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		it is significantly more complicated - especially for the average user - to install them than on other browsers. other browsers also let developers ask the browser to prompt the user to install the app. This is all documented in great detail in the links i shared

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ocdtrekkie 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Open Web Advocacy's goal is Chrome on all platforms, which just means the Play Store problem gets even worse. The moment OWA wins, the open web dies. These are people with a truly bad astroturfy goal, clothed in charitable nonprofit status.

Paradoxically, as long as WebKit is mandatory on iOS, the open web is safe: Websites have to build for a lowest common denominator standard instead of building for Chrome proprietary APIs.

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azuanrb 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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