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foo12bar 8 hours ago

Iran has continued to fire at tankers exiting the Strait of Hormuz under U.S. Navy escort, and apparently the U.S. can't afford to do anything about it.

The Bab el-Mandeb Strait, which is an alternative route used by the Saudis, is being closed by the Houthis. The Houthis are a close partner of Iran.

And the East-West pipeline, which was another alternative route owned by the Saudis, was blown up. They went for the pumping stations, so repairing it will take at least a month, and there is no way to repair it without it possibly being hit again anyway.

The oil infrastructure attacks by Ukraine are mainly targeting refineries, which would normally lower oil prices, since crude oil is an input to these refineries. These attacks are increasing diesel prices, though.

Iran is trying to break the world economy so the US packs up and leaves. Israel wants to keep the US there because the US is fighting one of their strongest enemies. Because Israel "is the US's greatest ally" (as many politicians have proclaimed over the years), they have a lot of sway as to what the US does. Not to mention, they seem to do whatever they can to derail any peace process.

Iran knows this, and therefore wants to make sure the US experiences enough pain to never come back and try to fight them again.

So, until the US is willing to stop, which rests heavily on when Israel is willing to stop, oil prices will remain high. (Or Iran folds, which they aren't going to do, they've been preparing for years and have seen how the US treated Venezuela - they stole all their oil, and left the regime intact)

Also, we've seen nothing yet, as the soft storage (the amount of oil that's normally floating through rhe global network) and the SPR's are all running dry. I would guess $150 oil in about a month.

palmotea 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> and there is no way to repair it without it possibly being hit again anyway.

What if they deploy hordes of those cheap Ukrainian anti-drone interceptors, near each station?

Buttons840 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is the might our 20 trillion dollars spent on military has bought us.

A month or two ago they sent out an email asking common military members for ideas to deal with Iran. We've paid think tanks millions of dollars for plans like that. Guess they weren't worth anything in practice though.

All that money spent on plans and equipment and it sustains--what?--like 3 weeks of bombing Iranian children? (I mean, we did bomb a children's school on the first day, and nobody has been held accountable, so I'm still bitter about that. Let's be better please.)

tim333 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The US has a lot of military hardware but questionable leadership just now. At least they've brought in testosterone tests so the military should look the part.

phist_mcgee 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This can't be real?

Buttons840 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It was widely reported starting around August 3, 2026. I just Googled it.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/03/politics/us-military-iran-war...

notpachet 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Let's be better please.

That rhetorical horse left the allegorical barn a long time ago.

CoastalCoder 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nice summary.

Modified3019 7 hours ago | parent [-]

What I find interesting is that while the actions of the US have been incredibly foolish and poorly thought through, Iran’s ability to make things hurt is very much a sword that cuts both ways.

There is now very strong incentive to develop alternatives that bypass what Iran can effect, which is exactly what’s happening. It will take a while for the infrastructure to come online, but as the months and eventually years go by, Iran will find its biggest lever for control rapidly diminishing even if the war was stopped now. Likewise, the move to EV’s will likely accelerate.

Americans have proven passive enough that I don’t expect political/military change unless the democrats pull their head out of their ass long enough to win the 2026 November elections and start impeaching and prosecuting the trump regime.

palmotea 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> ...unless the democrats ... start impeaching and prosecuting the trump regime.

Because that worked so well last time.

Time for some new ideas.

edfsadfer 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"There is now very strong incentive to develop alternatives that bypass what Iran can effect, which is exactly what’s happening. It will take a while for the infrastructure to come online, but as the months and eventually years go by, Iran will find its biggest lever for control rapidly diminishing even if the war was stopped now. Likewise, the move to EV’s will likely accelerate."

I am old enough to have lived through the oil shocks in New Zealand. It got so bad the government rolled out an alternative fuel system network of compressed natural gas. Many fuel stations had installed the tanks and pumps and many cars were converted to it. NZ has gas deposits enough to meet all its own demands.

As soon as the oil shock was over it was all ripped out and we all went back to oil.

foobiekr 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It will take _many_ years for alternatives to come online in the US and most other places. So much of the west is unable to execute on any kind of large project. In addition, in the US, the current administration has an irrational opposition to the main cost-effective alternatives.

mysterydip 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It doesn’t seem irrational if their friends/family/donors have investments in the incumbent energy systems.

onlypassingthru 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What if I told you that manipulating the oil futures market was a foolproof way to make themselves filthy rich? Would you still think that opposition was irrational?

Buttons840 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The world moving away from oil weakens America too. It's not like the US is a leading producer of solar panels or EVs.