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tonymet 7 hours ago

Ikea compressed wood dresser = $125. Proper oak dresser = $5000 . What consumer is capable and willing to make that trade off.

Much of that cost is because we nuked the American timber industry ?

Appealing to the fabricators (or even consumers) who are 4-8 degrees downstream of this policy will get you nowhere.

criddell 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There might not be any trade-off in your example. You're assuming that a solid wood piece of furniture is superior to the flatpack alternative and you can't really say that without knowing what the consumer needs.

I have a little Ikea Lack table that holds my printer. I paid less than $10 for the table and I don't even think it's wood (cardboard maybe?). It's getting close to 20 years old and is in great shape.

tonymet 5 hours ago | parent [-]

"there's no aesthetic difference between this beautiful portrait and the contemporary pile of trash in the corner"

criddell 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Not sure who you are quoting...

Of course there's an aesthetic difference.

tonymet 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s one of the tradeoffs. And an undervalued one.

criddell 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Absolutely. And it’s a trade off that doesn’t necessarily go against Ikea. Frankly, I think it’s one of the top reasons people choose Ikea furniture.

One of the genius things Ikea did was have little staged rooms in their store. They do a great job of these and lots of them look like rooms I’d want to spend time in. You see how that various pieces can be combined into something very inviting.

megaman821 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Was there a time when an oak dresser was much cheaper in inflation adjusted dollars?

Furniture that lasts forever is an anti-feature for some. They want to change their furnishings about as often as cheap furniture lasts anyway. I mostly buy quality furniture, but sometimes I don't know what I really want and Ikea and Wayfair are great for that. Cheap enough to donate after I decide what quality piece I really want.

tonymet 5 hours ago | parent [-]

yes.

And you're reversing cause and effect. Do the consumers prefer a disposable lifestyle or is that a cope?