I think it’s a very good look when the people you complain about are racists.

archerx 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It’s meaningless when everyone calls people they don’t like racist or Nazi. Those words are losing their impact due to such casual racism and I know what racism is because I was once stopped from going into a barber shop because and I quote “We don’t cut that kind of hair here”.

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740273730191 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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IslandRebel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I personally find it tiresome. This happens every few years where someone creates a project or does something that becomes popular and then someone starts combing through everything they've said to find something objectionable.

Someone went back like 10 plus odd years on an old Jeff Geerling's blog and found that he had at the time (not sure what his position is now and don't care) some mild anti-abortion views and was called a fascist. Loius Rossman made an offhand remark about transexuals and he gets called a fascist.

It is quite obvious for some it has become nothing other than witch hunt.

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boredpudding an hour ago | parent | next [-]

There's a difference between when people have a platform. Made a mistake 10 years ago? Fine.

But that's very different than using your huge platform today to spread your hate.

Pretending those two are the same is dangerous. One of them does actual harm today.

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IslandRebel an hour ago | parent [-]

> There's a difference between when people have a platform. Made a mistake 10 years ago? Fine.

I am sorry but that isn't the case. There will be people bringing this stuff up constantly for years to come. This happens all the time. Someone will dig through some old forums/news group/twitter posts that someone made and use that as a stick to beat them with.

I care about people committing serious crimes, not that they've expressed an opinion I disagree with.

> But that's very different than using your huge platform today to spread your hate.

I severely doubt he has any ability to enact any serious political change in the UK. You would have to prove to me he can change elections and/or enact policy.

> Pretending those two are the same is dangerous. One of them does actual harm today.

Making discussion impossible by calling everyone a fascist/racist/nazi or whatever that has political views you disagree with is dangerous. Anti-immigration sentiment is rising in the UK because there has been quite a number of high profile incidents where women and/or children have been harmed or killed. One of these incidents my own mother was involved in (I can't give more details than that).

I am pretty much bang on in the centre politically and if I try to even steelman the opposing sides arguments (on both the left and the right) I will have people berating me.

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drewbeck 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Someone will dig through some old forums/news group/twitter posts that someone made and use that as a stick to beat them with.

This is not about digging up some old careless post. It’s about his current views which he posts proudly online.

I’ll note your post pulls a classic trick:

- these views are not that important to who he is

- anyway even if he did hold those views it’s not that big of a deal

- but also I agree with those views (even tho I am but a humble, reasonable centrist)

	▲	IslandRebel 11 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> This is not about digging up some old careless post. It’s about his current views which he posts proudly online. Firstly, this is what happened to several people not just DHH. Secondly, constantly berating him for having the wrong opinions and not explaining why those opinions are wrong are more likely to entrench his positions and anyone that is sympathetic to those opinions. > I’ll note your post pulls a classic trick: - these views are not that important to who he is - anyway even if he did hold those views it’s not that big of a deal - but also I agree with those views (even tho I am but a humble, reasonable centrist) No I am not pulling any tricks. I never said I agree with them. I said why the sentiment exists and why it is becoming more broadly accepted. I am quite happy to talk politely about any issue that I believe I can have some input on, but I do not appreciate you alluding that I am some sort of secret fascist. I've been down the political rabbit hole years ago and came to the conclusion I had been manipulated and lied to (by both the right and the left). After that I try to pay as little attention to politics as possible as it is outside of my locus of control.

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brazukadev 22 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Why are you comparing someone that said a mild anti-abort thing to DHH tho? can you describe with your words what is DHH main talking points? mild racism? mild eugenics?

	▲	IslandRebel 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Because any right of centre sentiment is often called fascist. DHH has a blog post where he explains his views. You can look there for yourself. I read it the blog post that is frequently cited some time ago and it was standard anti-immigration talking points that been floating around Conservative spaces for quite some time now.

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yaakushi 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No idea who Jeff Geerling is, but about Rossman: He has his opinion about trans people. Some people have the opinion that he is a bigot as a consequence of that. I don't see the issue with that? Also, it's not like he'll lose his platform or his company over that, so I doubly don't see the issue here?

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polymer8563 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

totally the same thing guys! comparison is my passion!

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