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aesthesia a day ago

One thing glossed over in this article is that Irregular was not involved in the OpenAI–Hugging Face incident; this seems like important context to share.

hungryhobbit 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you mean "Irregular was not involved (we know for certain)" or "Irregular was not involved (as far as we know)"?

aesthesia 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's very little reason to believe Irregular was involved in that incident, and the article presents no evidence to that effect. So it's "There's not a teapot orbiting the sun somewhere between Earth and Mars (as far as we know)."

yorwba 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OpenAI explicitly stated those were separate incidents: https://openai.com/index/third-party-cyber-evaluations-invol...

ameliaquining 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We know for certain. The involvement of Irregular in the other cases was never a secret, they were quite open about what they were working on and the results of the evaluations were being published on their website.

0xy 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Their disclosures in other cases is not evidence of non-involvement in this case.

ameliaquining 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Can you explain in what way you think they could possibly have been covertly involved?

EA-3167 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you want to believe without evidence why bother to read articles? Faith doesn’t require that, but if you’re serious then a lack of evidence is important.

embedding-shape a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That feels less like "glossed over" and more "Headline is 33% false".

aesthesia a day ago | parent [-]

Oh, the headline is technically correct: there was an OpenAI incident that Irregular was involved with, disclosed shortly before the Hugging Face one.

hluska 7 hours ago | parent [-]

> One thing glossed over in this article is that Irregular was not involved in the OpenAI–Hugging Face incident; this seems like important context to share.

Why are you contradicting yourself? Are you just really bad at writing or are you being argumentative for fun?

nathan_young 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Stop being rude. There were multiple OAI hacking incidents. Irregular's evals were involved in some but not the HuggingFace hack. Hence Aesthesia is both accurate and precise.

magicmicah85 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's cause Irregular was not involved in that event, they were involved in a separate event OpenAI published here: https://openai.com/index/third-party-cyber-evaluations-invol...

In that article, OpenAI provides the context that this is a completely separate event from Hugging Face incident.