What about their built-in cryptocurrency? It's a perfect use for it. They could require payment post-install yet before message can be sent.

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wolvoleo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

True, if they're not even going to allow that for payment then they might as well remove it from the app altogether. Because what's the point if they don't even believe in it themselves.

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Cider9986 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nobody uses that and I think it was pre-mined. They should have implemented Monero but the UX isn't there. Maybe a Monero light wallet server run by Signal.

They probably avoided Monero to not attract the additional scrutiny. They don't even accept donations in Monero.

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wolvoleo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I always thought they didn't want monero because they were pushing their own crypto thingy. Which indeed nobody uses.

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dakolli an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

They avoid Monero because Signal and the EFF are actually the feds and this is all theater.

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Cider9986 an hour ago | parent [-]

Claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Signal is not robust for metadata protection. Neither do they advertise anonymity. They take steps to protect metadata but it's nothing compared to SimpleX.

If it's "the feds", then how? There's reproducible builds on all platforms except iOS so we know the source code is what's running on our devices. Can you point to the code where the E2EE is compromised?

They are the largest messenger that has E2EE backups by default.

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drum55 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've literally never seen anybody mention it, much less use it since it was announced.

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