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Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public camera installation(investigatetv.com)
87 points by SanjayMehta an hour ago | 28 comments
orangeberrytea 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Flock is a YC company, HN tries to make it seem like it’s evil govts but it’s them

saghm a minute ago | parent | next [-]

Personally I think that having funding from investors rather than taxes doesn't preclude evil from being called out (although in this case a lot of revenue certainly comes from tax money)

b112 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Flock was seed round funded by YC, not "a YC company".

It's not like they control it, manage it, and what was pitched may be significantly different than what happened since then.

YC isn't perfect, but what words you use, and their order is important. And the way you're phrasing it, you make it sound as if they are a subsidiary of YC. Or as if YC is on the board.

If any of these things are true, you should plainly state them. Otherwise, what you're saying is incorrect.

jazzypants 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Would you balk similarly at someone calling reddit or airbnb a "YC company"?

LastTrain 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If the they didn't pitch the massive surveillance and data capturing aspects they wouldn’t have got the funding.

WarmWash 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Using misleading language is the best way to get up votes though!

tekla 3 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety

> When Demo Day was over, after we had booked meetings with investors and were well on our way to our first fundraising round, YC set the tone for scaling Flock doggedly, purposefully, and with consistent velocity, for years to come.

Damn, its almost like YC really set the stage for mass AI surveillance from the founders own mouth

tptacek 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Random people calling 911 on other people filming them is a staple of Youtube; banks, coffee store workers, hairdressers, most especially restaurant managers. I don't know why anyone would expect technicians from Flock to be different. It's worse for the technician in this case, because he really was being followed --- that's not unlawful but it's unnerving.

You'd think from the response that this was like the VP/Sales of Flock Safety. But it's just some installer dude probably making $65k/year to climb poles and fasten cameras. I guess that's praxis for you though.

I think this is just a ragebait piece.

EgregiousCube 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

Especially when chances are that this camera installation was the result of local government asking and paying Flock to put it up. I'm not sure why the anger is directed at the company instead of local elected officials, and I understand the plight of the installer who's worried about being labeled as a bad guy for executing public works contracts.

jamesnorden 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Flock (YC 2017) missing from title.

driverdan 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49618447

Zeetah 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Privacy for me but not for thee - Flock

blueoranges 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Flock is YC

juiceland 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>The officer said the installer was also concerned about privacy. "And his worry more than anything is that, you know, he's just an employee. Anybody like you and me. And now he's going to be in the news and he doesn't know if it's going to be targeted at him or his family."

Don’t you understand? He was just following orders.

bobim 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

Milgram agrees

Hasz 2 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

man, these guys bungled their PR so, so hard. What they should have done is pre-seeded a ton of stories about flock catching some notorious criminal, helping solve xyz serious crimes, helping solve abc minor nuisance issue crimes, and maybe some lines about reducing direct law enforcement interactions.

On the flip side, let Axon, Motorola take some of the heat, paint your enemies as "defund the police", and stop being so obviously branded. Take a page out of Phillip Morris/Altria playbook and keep a lower profile.

Instead, they've managed to unite left and right in hatred. Clown show.

spiderfarmer 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

US citizens are bad at protesting. In my area these cameras would be on fire weekly.

mikeodds 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

French? I was impressed by:

Yellow vests knock out 60% of all speed cameras in France

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46822472

andwhatisthis 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Would be nice, but we (in France) have plenty of cameras already. They may not be branded Flock, but they're there nonetheless. And as far as I'm aware, none of them are ablaze.

tekla 7 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

This story isn't related this issue at all. This was about a fuel tax, not actually about the cameras themselves

bdangubic 12 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

US Citizens have been tamed by “social” and other media propaganda by the people in power. But we got 2A handy to you know, hunt for rabbits and shit

croes 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh the irony

kappi 21 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

this site has become flocknews.com! no other tech news to submit?

jamesnorden 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Really, with all the AI submissions, that's what you think the website is full of?

orangeberrytea 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Flock is YC that’s why

nixosbestos 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, it hasn't. And yeah, man, I hope hackers give a shit about YC and Flock enabling the dismantlement of any semblance of privacy, and normalizing total surveillance culture.

mulemisterX 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, it hasn't. And if it did, so what?

tekla 15 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The site owners are the ones that helped fund this evil shit.