> It's a law, so nobody has to agree to anything. If want to sell access to a model, you have to open the weights.

Laws don’t extend to the entire world. There are AI labs outside of the US that are not that far behind. Forcing US companies to open their weights would hand those labs another advantage, moving the frontier AI to a location outside of any US regulation.

Your proposal doesn’t make any sense.

> The plan that depends on every lab in the world agreeing is Dario's.

I don’t understand how you think creating a law in the US to destroy our AI companies and give an advantage to competitors we can’t regulate accomplishes anything in line with the AI safety debate.

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jacobgold 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Laws don't extend to the whole world, but markets do. The law should apply to anyone selling model access to Americans, the same way GDPR applies to US companies selling to Europeans.

Frontier development won't simply move offshore because the GPUs, most of the people, and almost all of the funding is here.

Our European and Asian allies would probably go along with this idea, because it costs us far more than it costs them.

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Aurornis 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The law should apply to anyone selling model access to Americans

So the US AI labs get taken out, and US companies fall behind on access, too?

This is beyond unrealistic.

> Our European and Asian allies would probably go along with this idea

I could see European countries doing it.

Asian - absolutely no way that would happen.

	▲	jacobgold 20 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Nobody gets taken out. Anthropic and OpenAI can keep selling inference, products, and agents. Every company will have more access than it has today, since it can run the weights itself or through third-parties. Many of them would keep paying OpenAI and Anthropic, at reduced pricing/margins. It would only slow down the development of new models. But we've already got models with massive "capability overhang" that we could keep pushing for years.

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p91paul 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The GPUs and the people (I imagine you mean the extremely well paid researchers) are there because of the funding. The funding is in the US now, but as TFA explicitly says, the law would reduce spending on AI training. All the money will still be available, which means the funding will either a) move to a different sector or (more likely) b) move to a different country. Taking the people and the GPUs with it. So yes, most training will move offshore. Secondarily, OSS business models are based on the fact that the developer is the most qualified in offering support. With models, anyone with the weights can serve the model with the same performance (meaning level of "intelligence") as the original developer. Any business model depends entirely on spending huge amounts of money in training to then hopefully gain from inference. If anyone can compete on inference the same day you deploy the model, it's unlikely you can break even while your competitors that saved on training get rich on inference. i.e. it's more likely to entirely stop training in the US rather than slowing it down...

	▲	8note 17 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> move to a different country. which other country? who's got this "dump all your money on speculation" like the US does? whis got the slack electric capacity? the ability to buy US GPUs and build datacenters? who is their customers?

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CamperBob2 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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