LG Says We're Fake News [video]

This „we own the glass“ idea is completely insane. How does an industry degenerate to the point where they consider acceptable to base their business model on owning part of the product they sell you?

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oh_my_goodness 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

If you don't have laws, or don't enforce them, people will do whatever they want.

I can remember when this simple point was obvious to almost everyone.

	▲	dathinab 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		yep one of the first rules of any market should be you sell a product -> you are responsible about the product with a ".. -> you must be honest about the product (/what the products does, provides, etc.)" to see how absurdly not followed this common sense(^1) is in the us look at supplements 1. provider are not hold responsible, non small parts of sold supplements are harmful in one way or another. Even cases like supplements advertised for pregnant woman with highly dangerous components for pregnant woman existed, no major change followed. 2. high amounts (AFIK 80% or so) of supplements sold in the US are severely dishonest and don't quite contain what is advertised. And this isn't just about it technically containing the supplements, but in a form the body can't absurd. But it goes so bad that "it's just sugar pills" is more on the harmless side... (and even that is dangerous given that many people take supplements for fixing health issues caused by to little of what the supplement). not only has the US not fixed it when it started going out of hand, they went explicitly out of their way to not fix it. (^1): (Common sense for anyone looking a bit into market dynamics/consumer protection etc.)

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dreamcompiler 2 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Companies are amoral. If killing people boosted their share price they would issue every employee a machine gun in a heartbeat. The only reason this doesn't happen is it's illegal.

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newsclues 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sony and Microsoft fought to own the living room in console wars

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mc32 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Marketing executives thinking “out of the box” is how. Ethics cannot contain them inside. They have breached the perimeter and now trample everyone for MRR.

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hadlock 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I deeply regret buying my LG. Originally the plan was to never connect it to wifi, and use an external device (chromecast, apple tv, or whatever) but my wife was too excited to try out whatever features. Unfortunately we can't sell the TV for anywhere what we paid for it new (to replace it with a different brand) so we're stuck with it for another ~7-10 years, or whatever the standard TV replacement interval is these days. New "apps" keep showing up on the main screen, which I have to "delete" from the main screen once a month or so (they're not deleted, they're just undeletable apps in some massive library of preinstalled spyware we can fortunately mostly hide). Apparently Sony OLED screens are LG "glass" but without the spyware.

	▲	dessimus 9 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		>Apparently Sony OLED screens are LG "glass" but without the spyware. Without independent verification from someone like GN, I wouldn't trust "we installed rootkits" Sony not to be spying too.
	▲	MattTheRealOne 4 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Sony uses Google TV. Doesn't inspire trust as far as spying and data collection goes.
	▲	forestry 7 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		What’s stopping you from disconnecting it from wifi mow?
	▲	literallyroy 15 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Why not reset it

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hn_throwaway_99 3 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Somewhat off topic but also ironic - I recently upgraded my version of Android, and when I opened YouTube for the first time on this video it asked for permission to detect nearby devices. I get why it would need that to cast, but at this point it's not paranoia to think that granting that permission just means it would scan whenever I have the app open and upload the data to YouTube servers for no good reason.

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add-sub-mul-div an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The crazy part of this is that LG did not fear flat out admitting they do fingerprint the audio of what you watch. I already knew that, but I can't imagine it's common knowledge yet. How long ago was it that that would have been the crazy untrue accusation?

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ChrisArchitect 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49645480

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PorciiVorbesc 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Original Youtube title of the video I got a few hours ago was: "LG’s Manipulative, Gaslighting Response to GN Report"

Either they changed it for some legal reason, or Youtube allows for A/B testing of multiple titles for engagement.

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nodja 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Youtube allows you to AB test with up to 3 titles and thumbnails.

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kouteiheika 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's almost certainly A/B test. Essentially everyone does it.

You can even sometimes see when a list of videos on YT first loads and a given video has one title, and it suddenly switches to another without you reloading the page.

	▲	neom 32 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Have you noticed that has become more common recently? Because I have. It seems over the past 3/4 months, reload and see a new title happens pretty much daily to me (it also seems to work because sometimes it causes me to click the video I didn't click with the old title).
	▲	kowbell an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		On several channels I watch, I've noticed the top comment is always along the lines of "who was here when the video title was XYZ" because you know it's going to change.

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smashspectacle 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

YouTube encourages A/B testing of both titles and thumbnails, but it could be either.