| ▲ | threecheese 2 days ago |
| This is a problem that autonomous vehicles created. Why should we not complain that its solution is worse than non-autonomous travel, given it carries risk that doesn't exist today? Does Waymo benefit society enough to carry the tradeoffs? And what surveillance or other risks does this introduce outside of the cabin, and why should society allow that? What is the definition of modicum of detection, and who is drawing that line? |
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| ▲ | UltraSane 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Does Waymo benefit society enough to carry the tradeoffs? It absolutely does 1000x. You can also just not use it. |
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| ▲ | mixmastamyk 2 days ago | parent [-] | | They snap me crossing the street almost daily, nothing I can do about since sometimes they take me by surprise. | | |
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| ▲ | anon84873628 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >its solution is worse than non-autonomous travel Citation needed. Assaults and abuse against public transit and taxi drivers is a common workplace hazard. Why are we subjecting humans to that? Why are we ok expecting them to decide if a gun is fake or not and call the police? >Does Waymo benefit society enough to carry the tradeoffs? Absolutely. |
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| ▲ | handwarmers 2 days ago | parent [-] | | >>Does Waymo benefit society enough to carry the tradeoffs? >Absolutely. Citation needed. Why stop at Waymo? The entirety of your digital activity happens on private property. You should have no expectation of privacy, and your attempts at privacy should mark you as a higher risk subject. We should algorithmically police your digital life in case you start showing signs of anti-social behavior. I don't want to wait until you get your gun into a Waymo to have the cops handle you. I want you to be caught much earlier. This will make the world much safer. There are other ways to solve safety issues, but they are harder and more expensive - civic education and a government invested in incentivizing a productive life, better law enforcement training, freely available mental health services etc. | | |
| ▲ | anon84873628 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Fortunately the Fourth Amendment has mostly established the answer for us already. | | |
| ▲ | handwarmers 2 days ago | parent [-] | | No? The Fourth Amendment only grants you protections that apply to government action. The police are allowed to accept evidence gathered voluntarily by private citizens or corporations. |
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