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▲ pr337h4m 6 hours ago

The dehumanization of children and teenagers is getting out of hand.

▲de-moray 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How does removing access to Clause equate to dehumanizing children?

▲matheusmoreira 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's dehumanizing because it feels like you're an incomplete human with no agency.

When I was a teenager, there was nothing I hated more than obnoxious adults deciding for me what I could or couldn't do. I did literally everything in my power to circumvent them.

▲jbs789 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

we are all incomplete human beings with limited agency. protecting minors us about understanding stages of development.

▲cmiles74 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The larger the list of thing minors cannot do, the more they will resent the constraints.

▲matheusmoreira 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't want or need governments and corporations to "understand" my development. I'll take care of that myself, thanks.

▲azan_ 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Children absolutely should have less agency than adults.

▲mdp2021 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Minors" should have less agency than adults, but the state of "minor" vs adult does not follow the plain age. (And of course there exist many dimensions of maturity.)

(In fact, in some educational systems, the final examination in pre-University schools is called "Maturity test".)

▲whazor 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲Hizonner 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not just Claude. It's being cut off from every part of society except a carefully curated "child ghetto". In which you stay until the day you turn 18. At which point you're shoved out into the outside world. Possibly cut off from all your existing contacts, in fact, since now you're an "adult" and it's presumed dangerous for you to interact with a "child" in any noninstitutional way.

Yes, most of society is online nowadays, or at least is hard to engage in if you can't access the online stuff that organizes it.

▲logicchains 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not dehumanization, they just dread a future where kids can learn from 24/7 tutoring from an entity smart enough to solve Millenium problems instead of from some B student who's also teaching 20 other kids at a government propaganda factory.

▲onion2k 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The future I dread is one where kids don't learn and just defer everything to AI. That puts so much power into the hands of the AI companies.

▲mdp2021 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It is similar to the WWW, and simply even to books (to company etc.): some people will use the available for cultivation, many for entertainment.

Whether the kid will be prepared to do the right thing, to prefer the better choice, remains a societal (family, school etc.) task.

▲canelonesdeverd 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This level of psychosis makes me wonder if adults should be banned from using AI as well.

▲mdp2021 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> if adults should be banned ... as well

Yes, many nominal adults are factual minors.

> This level of

Some educational systems are propaganda machines.

Some people cannot grasp how administrations appear to fight cultivation instead of promoting it, and given the unsightly appearance of many administrators, many people got to nurture the idea that administrations would want "masses of ignorant voters" to preserve their status as "elected".

All of this is pretty trivial.

And stop calling LLMs "AI".

▲jbs789 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

who is "they"? and why is this a desirable outcome exactly?

▲lirolero 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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