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| ▲ | elAhmo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Are you saying scripts from agents are deterministic? :) |
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| ▲ | d5lt5 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why don't you try to dispove me. Yes, they are _more_ deterministic than tool calls and consume less tokens. | | |
| ▲ | elAhmo 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | There is nothing to disprove as you don't understand what does a word mean. Deterministic is not a spectrum, they can either be deterministic or not. In both cases, they are not. | | |
| ▲ | d5lt5 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oh, I'm so sorry I touched your paper feelings. How dared I to imply that some LLM output is more deterministic than the other, your LLM majesty. Shame on me and my entire family! For generations to come! So sorry I implied that the code that doesn't work and has to be fixed later is deterministic in its execution and can be reused later instead of being re-generated from scratch! Will I ever wash it off my name, your grace? |
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| ▲ | arcanemachiner 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They're talking about writing a file with a harness-native Edit tool. They're saying the agents aren't doing that, but are using ad-hoc methods of writing the files. (My agents seem to prefer see these days.) |
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| ▲ | d5lt5 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why do you think your agents prefer to create scripts instead of doing tool calls these days? I wonder, is it easier to modify a script that agent wrote before to satisfy your prompt, or is it easier to write a new one from scratch each time a retry happens? Are input tokens more expensive than output tokens? | | |
| ▲ | weird-eye-issue an hour ago | parent [-] | | My god. They are not reusing the scripts. They are adhoc, inline Python scripts just used to make a single edit. You seem to fundamentally not understand what everyone else is talking about |
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