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d5lt5 4 hours ago

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elAhmo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Are you saying scripts from agents are deterministic? :)

d5lt5 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Why don't you try to dispove me. Yes, they are _more_ deterministic than tool calls and consume less tokens.

elAhmo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

There is nothing to disprove as you don't understand what does a word mean. Deterministic is not a spectrum, they can either be deterministic or not. In both cases, they are not.

d5lt5 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh, I'm so sorry I touched your paper feelings.

How dared I to imply that some LLM output is more deterministic than the other, your LLM majesty. Shame on me and my entire family! For generations to come!

So sorry I implied that the code that doesn't work and has to be fixed later is deterministic in its execution and can be reused later instead of being re-generated from scratch!

Will I ever wash it off my name, your grace?

arcanemachiner 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They're talking about writing a file with a harness-native Edit tool. They're saying the agents aren't doing that, but are using ad-hoc methods of writing the files. (My agents seem to prefer see these days.)

d5lt5 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Why do you think your agents prefer to create scripts instead of doing tool calls these days?

I wonder, is it easier to modify a script that agent wrote before to satisfy your prompt, or is it easier to write a new one from scratch each time a retry happens?

Are input tokens more expensive than output tokens?

weird-eye-issue 2 hours ago | parent [-]

My god. They are not reusing the scripts. They are adhoc, inline Python scripts just used to make a single edit. You seem to fundamentally not understand what everyone else is talking about

d5lt5 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

They do reuse scripts, though. Maybe it's you who is too lazy to _comprehend_ the output?

Or, maybe your prompts are not good enough. And it's not my problem to fix, as you claim you are very experienced.

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