Rust 1.0 was in 2015. Most of these languages you're thinking of out of the Handmade Community didn't even start development until around the point Rust 1.0 shipped.

In theory Odin 2027, the 1.0 release of Bill's Odin language, is scheduled for, as the name suggests, early 2027. Zig does not have an announced 1.0 schedule, and who knows for the other two famous Handmade languages.

From the rash of "C++ successor" languages a few years ago, Carbon is still being worked on, Herb Sutter's "Cpp2" seems dead or at least in a coma, Hylo is probably also in a coma, it has several "Write this text" type blog posts, dated 2025 for example...

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ryukoposting 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

As an embedded dev, it still feels a decade away, at least. Rust is perfectly usable as a lang to make a little module that links into your main project as a .a file. But, as the language for your whole embedded codebase? Forget it. I have a litany of complaints including Cargo fuckery, ecosystem neglect, lack of first-party support, excessive code size, bad documentation, and bad IR that wastes stack by creating copies on immutable moves.

Don't get me wrong, Rust is lightyears ahead of any other alleged C/C++ successor. But I work in a space where C and C++ have been the only option for the last 30 years with absolutely no production-ready alternative. It looks like that won't be changing anytime soon, which is disappointing.

	▲	afdbcreid 20 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Rust is already used in production for embedded (although only here and there). Not all places are ready, but I don't believe it's a decade away anymore.

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pjmlp an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From what I could understand regarding Sean Parent's last interview at ADSP, Hylo is most likely not happening at all, given the raise of AI tooling, with Dave Abrahams re-focusing into non-computing related work going forward,

https://adspthepodcast.com/2026/08/21/Episode-300.html

Cpp2 was Herb's experiment and doesn't seem to be developed much further now,

https://github.com/hsutter/cppfront/discussions/1450

Google is still quite keen in having Carbon, for the purpose of migrating existing C++ codebases, for new code there is Rust, Go, Kotlin, Java, Swift and co.

"Carbon: graduating from the experiment - NDC Toronto 2026"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJl4ftb5Fxg&t=9

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zamalek 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To Odin's credit, it is used for production software that _isn't_ a toy (by the language's own authors). It is probably 1.0 quality already.

	▲	afdbcreid 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Zig too. But this is far from being mainstream. Rust took around 5 years I think to become accepted in major companies, and those languages are harder to justify.

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hiccuphippo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> other two famous Handmade languages

Jai and... C3? FilC?