| ▲ | gruez 4 hours ago |
| Cognition, the same company that a few years ago demoed a coding bot purporting to be able to autonomously complete upwork tasks, but upon closer inspection was going off the rails and not even completing what was asked? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNmgmwEtoWE As others have mentioned this is post trained from Kimi k3, which is already quite capable, so it can't be that bad, but any claimed improvements in performance should be taken with a grain of salt. |
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| ▲ | fishtoaster 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| A friend recently pushed me to try out their coding platform, Devin, after I decided to move away from Cursor. I had the same reaction: "What, the con artists from like 2024?" But after some cajoling, I gave it a shot and was pleasantly surprised. I guess they learned their lessons, grew up, and are doing good work now, maybe? |
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| ▲ | arjie 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Their ads in SF are pretty funny. “Remember Devin? It’s good now”. Okay, very self-aware, Cognition. | |
| ▲ | wetpaste 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Not all that surprising. The original Devin really was just an early attempt at agentic coding before models were really even trained for it. Now that it's a well established pattern and we've figured out what works, I'm not surprised they've morphed into something reasonble. | |
| ▲ | tyre 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | When they launched Devin it was supposedly at the performance of an engineering intern. Friends who used it found the bad parts of an intern (tons of handholding, review required) but it didn’t learn from mistakes or add throughput. They seem to love a good overpromise. | |
| ▲ | darkwizard42 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think the evolution of the harness and ability to preserve loop context outside the context window has made running these kinds of agentic experiences easier. sorry so many buzzwords to say, the capabilities to do this kind of work are more accessible and easier to manage, so now it works! Good to see, and agree they were severely overhyping their product back then. | |
| ▲ | htrp 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | a reminder that money does enable you to make mistakes and buys you the ability to correct from them | | |
| ▲ | unshavedyak 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > and buys you the ability to correct from them Or at the very least, make more mistakes. |
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| ▲ | sterlind 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm surprised they can post-train a closed model off of K3. Is that the norm for open-weight licenses? |
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| ▲ | justincormack an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yes. If they are really open, you can use them as you wish. Some licenses are less open though. | | |
| ▲ | Ohentis an hour ago | parent [-] | | I would be somewhat surprised if any license restriction actually holds up in court. |
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| ▲ | notfromhere 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well the models did get better but yeah their early product was godawful |
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| ▲ | esafak 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Previous versions were based on Kimi too. I'd consider if it I could access the model outside Devin. No lock in for me, thank you very much. |