None of this matters anymore.

We have LLMs.

It's easy to build native everything now without much resource expenditure.

Android will be Kotlin. iOS will be Swift. Desktop and server will be Rust. Web will be TypeScript / React for now, but maybe one day WASM.

LLMs are the target now.

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raincole 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yet, neither ChatGPT desktop app nor Claude Code CLI is native. Mind you these are made by companies with practically infinite tokens.

	▲	echelon 30 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		These apps predated LLMs "getting good". Both have an enormous number of paying customers and you don't just disrupt that for a language change.

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gman83 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm building an app that targets Android, iOS, Windows, Mac, Linux. There's no way I'm going to be maintaining 5 different codebases, even with LLMs.

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WindyTree 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is one of those “oh gosh” posts at first glance, then you actually think about it, and it’s 100% correct. Python, Node exist to save the precious commodity of developer time. Once that’s no longer precious, best value comes from purified custom Rust, no attack surface from huge libraries, optimized performance for the specific task on all possible hardware.

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alternatex 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Windows desktop native is WinUI 3 and Windows App SDK, for better or for worse. No amount of Rust and tokens will recreate everything you get out of the box with that stack. Native needs to feel native.

	▲	zelphirkalt 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The last time Windows UI felt native was maybe Windows XP. Maaayyybe 7, if we are generous. It also has to do with sluggish or no feedback by UI widgets, due to the trend of flat everywhere.

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suriyaG 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

not sure why you're getting downvoted. but if you're building even very popular applications, it is quite easy to see how LLMs are very well suited for this type of consistency job.

- they follow instructions quite well.

- are tireless at doing mechanical ports between languages and frameworks.

- Can understand a new ecosystem quite well.

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nemomarx 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Then why aren't people doing that? Microsoft has as much access to cheap tokens as any software company around, right, so you'd think they would be leading the way.

	▲	suriyaG 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I'm sure these things are in the plans from upper management. we'll know when the next layoffs hit.
	▲	chasd00 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		they probably are but have some patience. Keep in mind, claudecode and the other coding agents were pretty bad until around Jan of this year (2026). So it's only been about 9 months since devs have had decent coding agents and even less time has elapsed since somewhat wide adoption.

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collingreen 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I didn't downvote but I'd expect downvotes for a completely unnuanced thought terminating cliche that ignores everything in the thread. AI fanaticism doesn't help but lots of people don't get downvoted for that alone.