| ▲ | leviathant 3 hours ago |
| I say this as someone with tens of thousands in audio equipment, as someone who can hear the compression warble in the hihats and the cymbals - audio quality with earbuds doesn't actually matter. It's like the argument for audio quality in cars - you're listening in a hostile environment, and convenience wins over fidelity. I remember walking to work one time with over-the-ear Sennheisers attached to my iPod and it felt ridiculous, and unsafe. I finally capitulated to earbuds when they started giving them away with the Pixel phones. The "find my" feature basically justifies the pro-prices, to me, because my biggest complaint about bluetooth earbuds in my own use case was how easily they're lost. I've lost and recovered my Pixel Buds Pro 2 a couple of times now. When traveling a lot by train and plane, the convenience of pocket-sized noise-cancelling earbuds has become worth it for me. But when I'm on meetings, I'm wired in. During the pandemic, I lost track of how many times my colleagues' Airpods would sputter out and die in the middle of a client meeting. Then they'd switch to wired headphones and their Macbook microphone. They sounded better, they could hear better, and there was no battery power sword of Damocles anymore. |
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| ▲ | Cruncharoo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Disagree slightly with audio quality for cars. I recently got a car with "good" speakers and the difference from regular car speakers is striking. Although I'm sure that the curve quickly flattens on spending more to get more quality, going above the base car speaker level has been awesome for me. |
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| ▲ | ryandrake 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think the point is that when you're driving (at least in a combustion engine car), the 60-70dB noise floor is so high that it almost doesn't matter how good the speakers are in an ideal silent, soundproof chamber. | | |
| ▲ | snissn an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I recommend ripping your car apart and putting sound insulation panels everywhere you can! Also replacing your sound system... | |
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| ▲ | ErneX 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | In cars it’s also important how good it isolates you from the engine and external noise like wind and wheels on the road. Some cars even have noise cancellation for that. |
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| ▲ | erxam 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I agree. Hell, when I'm listening to music with my full-fat expensive setup, even the noise of the fans in my desktop computer is distracting and adversarial to the listening environment. Bringing those cans outside would be insane. |
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| ▲ | ErneX an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Sound quality is worse when transmitting and receiving over Bluetooth, when I use the AirPods for calls on the MacBook I switch to the microphone on the MacBook, they will hear me better and I will hear them better since the AirPods will use all the bandwidth for outputting audio only. |
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| ▲ | tshaddox 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This is certainly the opposite of my experience. The sound quality from someone speaking via their MacBook microphone is noticeably worse than someone speaking via their AirPods microphone. | |
| ▲ | pedalpete an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Are you sure this is a bandwidth issue? I always assumed it was more about the position and size of the microphone. | | |
| ▲ | linsomniac 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | >Are you sure this is a bandwidth issue? It's technically not a bandwidth issue, AFAIK, it is a "profile" issue. When listening to audio only you are using a different bluetooth profile than when you are using it for two way mic+speakers. Try playing some music on your computer and then start a video call. Even before I jump into the meeting, as soon as I hit the Google meet site and it opens up the meeting "camera preview" page, the music quality goes straight into the toilet. This also happens to my "puck" speaker+mic array that is connected via USB. | |
| ▲ | y04nn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | When making a call and using headset mic+earphones the audio mode/profile drops back to HFP instead of A2DP used for music. The quality difference is huge. By using the computer mic you can keep using A2DP with better quality for your voice capture and listening experience. | |
| ▲ | echoangle an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They mean that the audio quality you hear on the AirPods is better if you only listen to audio compared to listening and using the microphone. I don’t know if that happens on Macs too, but it’s certainly true when using AirPods on Linux because you have to switch the profile when you want to use the microphone and then the audio is really compressed for playback. | | |
| ▲ | TomGarden 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, it's the same on Mac/iphone but better codecs. Still lossy but better than the Android experience |
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