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jiggawatts 3 hours ago

“These features do not create or store audio recordings, and raw audio used for processing is completely inaccessible to the operating systems, apps, the user, or Apple. This is because the S11 chip on Apple Watch Series 12 includes Secure Exclave, a dedicated hardware-isolated compartment that processes audio in complete isolation from the rest of the system, then immediately deletes it.”

People love to get worked up over technology that is actually private and secure.

Meanwhile they’ll use Google and Facebook without a second thought.

ProfessorLayton 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So I took issue with the automated note taking of conversations and didn't mention audio recordings. No mention of using Google or Facebook either.

jiggawatts 3 hours ago | parent [-]

How is this different from a privacy standpoint of someone simply memorising what you said in the last fifteen seconds and scribbling it down onto a piece of paper?

You’re sounding… hysterical.

Even if you regularly say things that must never be tied back to you, like.. you are in the mafia or you’re an actual spy or whatever, and every single person around you has this on their wrist listening to every word you say all of the time… Nothing changes for you.

The users of the watches still have to take action to use the audio, which they too would have heard anyway, and could have transcribed and texted to someone or written down.

Oh… wait… are you MIB? Are you concerned that your memory eraser wand won’t wipe Apple Watch recordings of the last 15 seconds, allowing the public to finally know about aliens amongst us?

I know that sounds silly, but unless you can erase the memories stored in human brains, then you must realise that everything you say in the presence of meat computers with audio listening devices attached (ears) can be recorded (memorised).

gumby271 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> How is this different from a privacy standpoint of someone simply memorising what you said in the last fifteen seconds and scribbling it down onto a piece of paper?

I would hope to not be friends with such a fucking weird person tbh. But I guess if it's automated into a sexy device it's fine.

ProfessorLayton 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>How is this different from a privacy standpoint of someone simply memorising what you said in the last fifteen seconds and scribbling it down onto a piece of paper?

The difference is extremely obvious, to the point that you even typed out one of the differences!

Zagitta 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean it's nonsense, apple can update the "secure exclave" software at any time to exfiltrate the audio if they want or get ordered to.

If you read that quote carefully you'll also notice it's only the audio that's ever mentioned as inaccessible to apple etc but never mentions anything about the actual transcript, wanna bet that goes into their little advertisement venture?