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jazzpush2 5 hours ago

I would legitimately purchase a 'smart' phone that's just basically a 15-year old flip phone with maps and a modern battery + software stack. Awaiting the inevitable analog trend to kick back up so there are solid options here.

ghshephard 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've been rocking out a Casio F-91W (Retails new for $23) for about 3 months now - And all the annoyance I had with with my Apple Watch Ultra (16 hour battery, constant annoyance to upgrade, endless and useless notifications) - is gone. The CR2016 battery last 5+ YEARS , replacements are < $2. Watch has everything I ever cared about - Date, Time, Alarms, Light, Stopwatch, water resistance.

And, I don't think I've once missed having the big annoying clunker of a watch.

Lio 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In the nicest possible way, are you in the wrong thread?

This is about a new folding phone not the watches.

(I am glad to hear you like your watch though. Casio are classic).

ghshephard 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Correct thread - The Casio F-91W is the "FlipPhone" of watches. Going Retro on all our electronics. Retro Phone, Retro Watch, just walk away from the insane consumerism gadgetitis and find what makes you happy.

Lio 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Aha! OK I can respect that.

There's definitely something satisfying about a product that's both cheap enough that it could be disposable but well designed enough that you actually want to keep it forever.

I think that Jobs would approve of the Casio F-91W.

altmanaltman 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If that's all you cared for, why would you buy an Apple Watch Ultra in the first place? Like a Casio F-91W is a great watch but it is a fundamentally different category than an Apple Watch Ultra even though they're both "watches". It's a bit like saying, " Hey, my calculator has a battery life that lasts years, while my super powerful laptop has a battery life that only lasts 12 hours and has to be updated constantly.

Like yeah.

ghshephard 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

100% every word you wrote. I watched the Apple video. Thought it would be great to have this amazing GPS capable watch, with a cellular phone (that, I will confess, I did use three or four times and it was really good) - maps, remote finding of my phone, etc...

Honestly - if it wasn't for the incessant nagging me to upgrade, letting me know it's going to upgrade, letting me know it had failed to upgrade, and the never ending useless notification that I kept having to edit/unsubscribe/remove stupid apps that I never installed - I probably wouldn't have switched for a short period of time.

What I would have never predicted is how getting rid of all that noise has just made me so much happier.

Also - didn't realize how much I hate having to charge my watch every 16 hours.

GlacierFox 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think he's highlighting the all the bullshit the Apple Watch comes with has ended up meaningless crap after initially buying in to the Apple Watch hype for this guy. A laptop is a fundamentally different category than a calculator in both utility and capability.

zachlatta 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just got one of these (https://aiphor.com/products/bluefox-nx1-4-0-android-smartpho...) that I'm hoping to try and make my weekend phone. It's a small Android phone. It runs WhatsApp / Google Maps. I am going to set it up to forward my calls to it on the weekends. It just arrived, so I'm excited to try it out.

amelius 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wow, that's exactly the kind of form factor I'm looking for.

Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lMelOWpQo

Bolwin 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This and their newer Aura A1 I've wanted to get cause of the compact size, but they seem to lack support for US 5g bands

mooreds 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Please let us know how this works. It sounds like it might be a fit for my needs.

xethos 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

12 years, not 15, but there are currently BlackBerry Classic shipping with modern internals. I love mine, though I've flashed LineageOS for Android 16

https://zinwa.com/

a34729t 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just put your iWatch (with LTE) into a 3D printed case; that gets you most of the way there minus battery life.

What I'd love to see is a modern Sidekick. The form factor was basically perfect.

MetaWhirledPeas 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well there are options. https://commodore.net/callback/

bpev 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Commodore Callback, maybe?

pjmlp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are plenty Symbian phones around on 2nd hand shops.

4lx87 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have you considered an Apple Watch Ultra? That way you can send/receive messages, calls, do maps and directions, listen to music, etc. but you can't mindlessly scroll media.

alooPotato 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

honestly an apple watch + airpods is basically that.

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realty_geek 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Can you just use the 2 without a phone?

Dardalus 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, if you get cellular on the watch.

kgwgk 4 hours ago | parent [-]

For some values of "use". You cannot do without an iPhone (with a recent enough version of iOS): https://support.apple.com/en-us/109015