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zitterbewegung a day ago

Yes, with a much bigger screen I can definitely see this making me more productive and it is in between an iPad that getting through even minimal productivity tasks would work and bigger screens help a lot. Even though $1999 only gives you 256GB at least you get that low of a price point. Would have to see it in person though especially about the crease and the camera(s). (EDIT) I have a Clicks power keyboard which I can use with this. Seems like I should clarify that I can use this where a regular laptop can't be used. And since more people are interested in what I can use email, calendar and codex / Claude code (in fact Claude codr is why I have the clicks power keyboard)

sajithdilshan a day ago | parent | next [-]

Like what exact productivity tasks do you do on a phone for 2k USD that you cannot do as an example on a MacBook neo?

wpm a day ago | parent | next [-]

The ones I want to do on my iPhone.

This is usually because my iPhone dings more, and is connected to an always on network connection + phone network, so it's often the point of first-contact with any specific task/response/conversation/work unless I am sitting at my desk at home already.

And while I am someone who does take a laptop and an iPad with them in a backpack at lot of the time, that's not all the time. I'm not walking around the grocery store with a MacBook anything propped up on my cart. I'm not hanging from a strap on a bus or train with a laptop in my hands. And using a laptop on the couch usually makes my wrists hurt.

asdff a day ago | parent | next [-]

Here I am wondering why you are doing work while also grocery shopping.

wpm a day ago | parent | next [-]

Here I am wondering how you read that comment as "I need to work while I'm grocery shopping" as opposed to "when I am out and about, I need to use my phone for deep tasks that would benefit from a larger screen/keyboard".

It's like you're doing it on purpose or something.

asdff 18 hours ago | parent [-]

>deep tasks that would benefit from a larger screen/keyboard

Yes, but in the middle of the bread aisle?

wpm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

No, I'm not a heathen, I move off to the side, standing in front of the weird dense health-nut bread no one buys.

And I'm not going to let anyone tell me I'm a fucking weirdo for looking things up at the grocery store, I see people doing it all the time. They're all on their fucking phones!

arecsu a day ago | parent | prev [-]

This is the real philosophical deep take of it all, are we using these devices, or are these devices using us?

sajithdilshan a day ago | parent | prev [-]

But what exactly productive tasks that you need the bigger screen? Because for any productive task I can think of that requires a bigger screen I would need a keyboard and a touchpad/mouse as well.

wpm a day ago | parent [-]

I'm someone who often thinks of things to cook while grocery shopping. Oh theres such-and-such on sale, oooh they started carrying X, what the hell is that what can I use that in, that sort of thing.

When that happens I'll often want to look up recipes for that stuff right there in the store. The web has gone to trash. The mobile web is even worse. Adblockers can only help so much, its just that everyone dumbs everything down for small screens. So its very frustrating trying to process some search results and find a decent recipe for some-such and find the rest of the ingredients I need to buy. This is a low time committment task, I need to do this in a busy grocery store, and not block the part of the shelves I parked myself in front of for too long. I mean, I guess I could go home and use my desktop, but odds are I'll just forget. And no, I'm not gonna ask AI for a recipe.

On a screen that big, using Orion and locking it to "always show me desktop mode", I could more comfortably browse and look up these things than I can on my Pro Max sized phone now. The inner screen has a higher resolution than an iPad Mini.

Another example, and it was one they showed only very briefly in the video: I just want a bigger keyboard damnit. They showed an app taking up the top "half" of the inner screen, a keyboard taking up the lower half, with the phone folded at a 110ish degree angle. It's a Sidekick with a touch keyboard. So any time I have some serious typing to do (Slack message regarding something that requires a prompt response but isn't just a few words, not that hard to imagine other examples), that bigger screen is going to give me a keyboard that is much easier to type on than a Pro Max can, because the keys are going to be sized much larger and will not need to rely on the on-device typing guesstimator as much (and that thing is dumb as hell). God, being able to ssh into something and actually have some room for all of the extra keys that make working in a terminal easier, what a world!

Having a real computer for any of these tasks would of course be the ideal, but as portable as those have gotten, they still don't hold a candle to something that fits in my pocket and has a software stack that reliably lets me interact with it in a meaningful way without having to make room for a keyboard and a trackpad.

sajithdilshan a day ago | parent [-]

That’s a very niche use case and gonna be a very expensive recipes look up. Also I’m not sure the desktop mode of a website actually look better on a Duo because the text and links would be quite small to navigate with a finger and most probably it would by default get the website optimised for iPad/tablet view.

As for the bigger keyboard, I have tried that in iPad mini. It’s horrible. Because the distance between the keys is too far in that case and it actually slows down your typing. I can imagine the same in Duo when you use one half of it as the full keyboard

wpm a day ago | parent [-]

"Researching things on the go" is not a niche use case.

I literally said I use Orion with the "always use desktop mode". Do you have experience with that on an iPhone? If not, how would you know that it will default to the website optimized for mobile?

The iPad Mini doesn't have the same dimensions or aspect ratio, so its on screen keyboard experience cannot compare. The Mini in portrait orientation is almost an inch wider.

You really just seem like you're looking for issues to take. Don't buy the phone! Leave the people who will alone! We don't have to justify anything to you, and if you're going to ask us why we are, don't sit there and poo-poo every single fucking reason we have.

sajithdilshan 14 hours ago | parent [-]

For some who doesn’t want to justify, you seemed trigged so much, why bother commenting if you don’t wanna justify just fuck off

wpm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I did justify it, you're the one refusing to accept any of the subjective justifications. If you're not going to accept any of them, why are you asking for justifications? Just "fuck off"

zitterbewegung a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can do a productivity task where you can't just have a MacBook Neo out.

sajithdilshan a day ago | parent [-]

Like what? Do you do your office or schools work in your phones?

MisterMunchkin a day ago | parent | prev [-]

You can’t carry a neo in your pocket or use it on the bus

sajithdilshan a day ago | parent [-]

But that’s what I’m curious about, like what productive tasks do you do on a bus? I usually read something or scroll instagram and for neither of tasks I need a bigger screen

azan_ a day ago | parent [-]

It’s much nicer to use terminal on larger screens.

sajithdilshan a day ago | parent [-]

I know that, but how many people use terminals on their phones?

azan_ a day ago | parent [-]

I do, don’t know about others.

joenot443 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Nice! I like this answer. If I was someone who worked on the go more often I could probably see the appeal.

https://www.clicks.tech/ca/powerkeyboard

That's a very neat product.