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joenot443 5 hours ago

Did anybody want this?

zitterbewegung 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, with a much bigger screen I can definitely see this making me more productive and it is in between an iPad that getting through even minimal productivity tasks would work and bigger screens help a lot. Even though $1999 only gives you 256GB at least you get that low of a price point. Would have to see it in person though especially about the crease and the camera(s). (EDIT) I have a Clicks power keyboard which I can use with this. Seems like I should clarify that I can use this where a regular laptop can't be used. And since more people are interested in what I can use email, calendar and codex / Claude code (in fact Claude codr is why I have the clicks power keyboard)

sajithdilshan 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Like what exact productivity tasks do you do on a phone for 2k USD that you cannot do as an example on a MacBook neo?

wpm 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The ones I want to do on my iPhone.

This is usually because my iPhone dings more, and is connected to an always on network connection + phone network, so it's often the point of first-contact with any specific task/response/conversation/work unless I am sitting at my desk at home already.

And while I am someone who does take a laptop and an iPad with them in a backpack at lot of the time, that's not all the time. I'm not walking around the grocery store with a MacBook anything propped up on my cart. I'm not hanging from a strap on a bus or train with a laptop in my hands. And using a laptop on the couch usually makes my wrists hurt.

asdff 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Here I am wondering why you are doing work while also grocery shopping.

arecsu 4 hours ago | parent [-]

This is the real philosophical deep take of it all, are we using these devices, or are these devices using us?

sajithdilshan 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But what exactly productive tasks that you need the bigger screen? Because for any productive task I can think of that requires a bigger screen I would need a keyboard and a touchpad/mouse as well.

wpm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm someone who often thinks of things to cook while grocery shopping. Oh theres such-and-such on sale, oooh they started carrying X, what the hell is that what can I use that in, that sort of thing.

When that happens I'll often want to look up recipes for that stuff right there in the store. The web has gone to trash. The mobile web is even worse. Adblockers can only help so much, its just that everyone dumbs everything down for small screens. So its very frustrating trying to process some search results and find a decent recipe for some-such and find the rest of the ingredients I need to buy. This is a low time committment task, I need to do this in a busy grocery store, and not block the part of the shelves I parked myself in front of for too long. I mean, I guess I could go home and use my desktop, but odds are I'll just forget. And no, I'm not gonna ask AI for a recipe.

On a screen that big, using Orion and locking it to "always show me desktop mode", I could more comfortably browse and look up these things than I can on my Pro Max sized phone now. The inner screen has a higher resolution than an iPad Mini.

Another example, and it was one they showed only very briefly in the video: I just want a bigger keyboard damnit. They showed an app taking up the top "half" of the inner screen, a keyboard taking up the lower half, with the phone folded at a 110ish degree angle. It's a Sidekick with a touch keyboard. So any time I have some serious typing to do (Slack message regarding something that requires a prompt response but isn't just a few words, not that hard to imagine other examples), that bigger screen is going to give me a keyboard that is much easier to type on than a Pro Max can, because the keys are going to be sized much larger and will not need to rely on the on-device typing guesstimator as much (and that thing is dumb as hell). God, being able to ssh into something and actually have some room for all of the extra keys that make working in a terminal easier, what a world!

Having a real computer for any of these tasks would of course be the ideal, but as portable as those have gotten, they still don't hold a candle to something that fits in my pocket and has a software stack that reliably lets me interact with it in a meaningful way without having to make room for a keyboard and a trackpad.

sajithdilshan 5 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s a very niche use case and gonna be a very expensive recipes look up. Also I’m not sure the desktop mode of a website actually look better on a Duo because the text and links would be quite small to navigate with a finger and most probably it would by default get the website optimised for iPad/tablet view.

As for the bigger keyboard, I have tried that in iPad mini. It’s horrible. Because the distance between the keys is too far in that case and it actually slows down your typing. I can imagine the same in Duo when you use one half of it as the full keyboard

zitterbewegung 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can do a productivity task where you can't just have a MacBook Neo out.

sajithdilshan 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Like what? Do you do your office or schools work in your phones?

MisterMunchkin 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can’t carry a neo in your pocket or use it on the bus

sajithdilshan 5 hours ago | parent [-]

But that’s what I’m curious about, like what productive tasks do you do on a bus? I usually read something or scroll instagram and for neither of tasks I need a bigger screen

azan_ 5 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s much nicer to use terminal on larger screens.

sajithdilshan 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I know that, but how many people use terminals on their phones?

azan_ 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I do, don’t know about others.

joenot443 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nice! I like this answer. If I was someone who worked on the go more often I could probably see the appeal.

https://www.clicks.tech/ca/powerkeyboard

That's a very neat product.

billti 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was hoping I didn't. But after watching the event, I kinda do.

I have to hand it to them, they added some really nice touches to the OS for the new form factor. Seems almost like the best of an iPhone and a iPad Mini.

Still not sure I want something that bulky, and maybe I'll wait a few months to see the reviews and how the hinge and screen fold hold up. But tempted for sure...

elwell 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Why were you hoping you didn't?

ceejayoz 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm the sort of person to absentmindedly flex a metal fork enough times it snaps, so it's definitely not for me.

mrweasel 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Probably, but do enough people want it? The iPhone SE and the mini was discontinued do to "poor" sales, meaning poor for an iPhone. I'm interested to see if Apple will stop selling the Duo if it only sells at the same rate as the SE.

I don't know who this is for and can't figure out what problem this solves. It's cool, but it's not $2800 cool (yes, it's $800 more expensive in some markets). For that price is has to do more than fold in half, maybe fold into a swan of something.

toasty228 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They just have to make it appealing enough, a loooot of people buy ipads because they're cool and they project themselves into all these fancy advertised situations, 90% of the time it ends up gathering dust or being used 15 min on a sunday morning while you're too lazy to get out of bed.

jerlam 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Most people I know who use iPads do so because a phone is too small to see or type on, but an actual computer/laptop is too complicated and intimidating to use.

toasty228 4 hours ago | parent [-]

From hunting mammoths to being intimidated by inanimate slabs of metal and glass, what a time to be alive

aurareturn 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yea. If there is one thing I learned over the years is that people always prefer a bigger screen, as long as it is still reasonable to hold.

This is especially true in the younger generation where many of them don’t own a computer. They do everything on their phones or iPads.

httpz 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you suggesting Apple made a foldable phone without doing any market research on demand?

asdff 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Apple isn't infallible. See AVP.

burningChrome 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can't think of an application outside of travel or long commutes on a train where I would use this. For a daily driver its too big to fit into a pants pocket and the price tag is TGH.

frantathefranta 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes I'm quite interested in a foldable from Apple. Have been since I got an 7" Acer Android tablet ~13 years ago and was annoyed at the necessity of carrying 2 devices.

ako 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, for that money I can buy an iPhone and an iPad. Just checked, iPhone 17 256gb plus an iPad 13inch 256gb is about 100 euros cheaper than the cheapest iPhone duo.

adamwk 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of people own Samsung foldable phones? They’re especially popular in China and South Korea

elwell 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you offering?

altairprime 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm just reaching the age where I need reading glasses late in the day, and so in a couple years when I'm out of school and employed again, this is starting to look like the best option in the Kindle / Tablet space: it isn't just a flat pane of glass and it's no bigger than a Nintendo DS, so it will fit on my crowded surfaces and in my purse.

Do I want it? Ehhhh. I hate heavy objects. I stopped buying the Pro line because the weight just kept increasing. So I will probably not particularly enjoy that mass of batteries dragging on the purse strap. But I enjoy reading glasses less and I just don't want an unwieldy bigscreen that I can't hold easily like the iPhone Air.

Merad 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I definitely didn't want one 30 minutes ago, but now that I've seen it the idea of a phone that can be smaller in the pocket but unfold to give a large screen is pretty darn appealing. Appealing enough to pay 50% more for it? Eh... probably not.

jawngee 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I do.

sdcfgy 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s not if anyone wants it or not. There’s always some melon who does. It’s more will they sell enough to break even on it.