| ▲ | kstenerud 4 hours ago |
| That's so weird... This doesn't at all match my experience with Claude. I've never seen it behave this way. |
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| ▲ | lancebeet 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| You were right to push back. It's not an accurate representation of claude. It's satire. |
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| ▲ | 827a 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | But its not even good satire, because its totally unrepresentative of my and most others' lived experience. Its similar to making a joke about a calculator misadding two numbers because a stray beam of solar radiation flipped a bit. | | |
| ▲ | crazygringo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Agreed, this site isn't reflective of any of my experience with Claude. It does what I ask it to do, and when it doesn't get it right, it generally turns out there's a good reason for it, which is any of the 100 reasons a human doesn't always get code fixes right on the first try either. I do remember that one of the first things I did with my CLAUDE.md was to tell it to stick to the scope of the task, never to jump ahead and do extra "helpful" things without confirming with me first, and to follow best software practices including around refactoring but also to specifically avoid overengineering. I don't know if that is what's giving me a different experience from whatever the author seems to be "satirizing". | | |
| ▲ | eszed 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Aye, and amid all of the (admittedly annoying) word salad, the "Claude" in this satire identified the reason the requested change was hard: someone(s) at some point had hijacked the button markup for other purposes. Un-doing all of that kind of mess is never a trivial change, and probably requires someone with more coding expertise / knowledge of the code than the given prompts reveal the putative user to be. AI isn't magic, and it won't (or, at least, doesn't yet) enable anyone to do All The Things. | |
| ▲ | jaggederest an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think this really was a relevant issue around a year ago, give or take, maybe a year and a half now. But with current models you actively have to sabotage the context to get this kind of behavior, or dramatically underspecify (3 words versus 2-3 sentences) |
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| ▲ | KaiserPro 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Thinking.... The user is asserting that this is "not a lived experience" working out if the user has missed the LLM Cliche Formulating a suitable response "did you just argue with a joke?" No, thats to blunt "Is it satire when it only applies to you?" no again passive aggressive lets just print the dictionary definition of satire and hope the move on > Satire is when... | |
| ▲ | TheRealPomax 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I understand your frustration, it can be hard to hear that other people's experience of a technology is so different from your own that you cannot relate. I have misbehaved in this fashion for many people across the full spectrum from casual users to highly experienced software engineers with millions of social media followers, so the statement that it's similar to making a joke about a calculator misadding two numbers because a stray beam of solar radiation flipped a bit at least for my part is not true. Would you like me to start using bad English and doing things you never asked me to for your sessions, too? Just say the word. | |
| ▲ | stymaar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | FYI you're missing the satire in the comment you're responding too. | | |
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| ▲ | morgoths_bane 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You’re absolutely correct! | | |
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| ▲ | yieldcrv a minute ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| reminds me of November 2025 |
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| ▲ | wesselbindt an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Fair point! This post is not a load bearing and accurate description of Claude's workings, it's satire. |
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| ▲ | catapart 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| same. none of the available prompts are what I would prompt claude with and I get way better results than this. makes sense to me why the provided prompts result in the simulated outcomes. garbage in, garbage out. |
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| ▲ | madibo3156 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Part skeptic and part zetetic, what prompt would you have used? My impression is that this is an oversimplified demonstration of what can happen when you prompt Claude in a system with many more variables (than two buttons and two colours). If I want the button to turn blue and that's it, what instead do I ask? Even in a complicated system with many levers, what do I request other than the desired end result, hoping that Claude pulls the right levers to produce something acceptably close to what I think I asked for? | | |
| ▲ | crazygringo 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I dunno, but in my experience Claude looks at all the levers in your codebase, understands what they do, and then generally figures out how to achieve the desired end result. And when it doesn't, it's usually because of things outside of the codebase -- iOS layout quirks that aren't documented, buggy Python libraries it's relying on where you then have to tell it to read the source to figure out what's going on, that kind of thing. | | |
| ▲ | jaggederest an hour ago | parent [-] | | The other thing that I think a lot of people run into is that they launch it into a completely human-built system with hundreds of thousands of lines of code and expect run #1 to be perfect. You have to change the system so that the AI understands it, via establishing what your beliefs are, how those are reflected in values (especially important if you have e.g. compliance needs), how those values are reflected in the operational and strategic levels, and then a variety of tactical behavior coaching. For example, I ban 2>/dev/null - super tactical, and I say I value simplicity over covering every edge case - a very broad generalization. |
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| ▲ | mort96 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It "makes sense" that plainly telling the chat bot to make one button blue makes the whole site blue? It "makes sense" that correcting it and repeating 3 times that no, only the one button should be blue, should make the button a gradient and start a philosophical discussion around the nature of "blue"? Wow, you AI people really have a negative view of the technology y'all are trying to sell as the next Jesus | |
| ▲ | selestify an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | So how would you prompt it instead? Because that's exactly how I prompt it, because any reasonable human being would know exactly what I mean by "Make the shopping button blue", and I am sick and tired of getting shitty results. |
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| ▲ | sunaurus 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You're lucky! I remember several sessions pretty similar to this. Usually just restarting the session helps, though. |
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| ▲ | johnisgood 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Same. I have never seen it (Opus) act like this either. EVER. Not in the past 3 years at least. Be specific. That said, GPT always acts up even if I am specific, but I only have the free tier there. |
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| ▲ | singularity2001 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Of course it's not THAT bad, but you can't tell me that you didn't recognize many of the funny turns and twists of the "story". It gets more convincing if you deliberately pick the ambiguous versions. |
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| ▲ | whalabi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I've definitely had it behave exactly like this at times and it's infuriating. I think it depends on your codebase. |
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| ▲ | inknight 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| try using Claude Design |
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| ▲ | dominotw 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| because you never changed just one button to blue |
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| ▲ | iLoveOncall 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is EXACTLY my experience with it. Ask for it to change one line of code and see it invoke 20 tools and burn 300K tokens before updating the line and adding 50 extra lines of JavaDoc. Only since 4.8 though. |
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| ▲ | raincole 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's a joke dude. |
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| ▲ | Ampersander 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's an insult to the superintelligence. The basilisk will not look kindly on this! | | | |
| ▲ | badrequest 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | "it's funny because it isn't true" | |
| ▲ | llm_nerd 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's a joke like the endless conservative dudes doing the "ordering coffee" joke is. It relies upon the ignorance of the viewer -- which is usually a fair assumption -- and basically that your understanding of something is based upon the prior accrued layers of "jokes". | |
| ▲ | kristofferR 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, but it's not funny since it doesn't match reality. |
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| ▲ | llm_nerd 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Seriously, I use Claude Code all day and have zero issues with this. To the people rather lamely doing the "it's satire/a joke", that would require this to be an exaggeration of a reality. But...it isn't. |
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| ▲ | invalidusernam3 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Claude is great, but I have come to really hate the way it "talks". It's so irritating and there seems to be no way to make it speak normal English. So many claudisms in every response |
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| ▲ | agluszak 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It means that either you stopped using Claude around Opus 4.6 or you use Fable instead of Opus 5 :) |
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