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igleria 5 hours ago

v4 pro was decent then a better cheaper faster model comes now?

As a consumer I feel like hansel and gretel combined, deepseek could be the witch.

throwaway473825 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not unprecedented given that GLM 5.3 Flash was better and cheaper than GLM 5.2.

calgoo 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

v4 flash has been working quite well for the majority of my personal projects, with occasional v4 pro or Kimi 3 for the most complicated tasks or to check the overall project progress (when vibe coding).

HansHamster 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I must be doing something wrong. I gave v4 pro a try a couple of days ago, gave it a simple prompt like "clean up functions x and y in file z" and it would always start off promising, just to quickly get sidetracked, start hallucinating problems in the code, and just get stuck for hours until I interrupt it:

— hmm — 0x2D696370 — little-endian bytes: 70 63 69 2D = 'p','c','i','-' — hmm — WAIT — WAIT — !!!!! — *WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — *HOLD ON — HOLD ON — HOLD ON — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — !!!!!!!! — *WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — *OK — WAIT — I THINK I FINALLY SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE — I NEVER READ IT — AND — THE LAYOUT — hmm — !!!!! — *WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — WAIT — HOLD ON — HOLD ON — HOLD ON — HOLD ON

Then gave the same to Sonnet 5 and it was done 15 - 30 minutes later. I tried v4 pro both in claude code and codewhale with similar results. Haven't tried the new deepseek harness.

KyleTheDev 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've been using the 0731 Flash V4 model, via Opencode, and I've had no major issues. It feels very comparable to Opus 4.6/4.7, that I use at work. I haven't ran into any of the problem you mention, so that might be a quirk of V4 pro, the specific harness, or maybe the host you're using?

atwrk 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess this was a heavily quantized version from openrouter? I've never had that experience in the last months of quite intensive use of the official deepseek api.

HansHamster 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

No, that was directly from deepseek. And it happened very consistently (3 or 4 times in a row, clean session every time, and across 2 harnesses). Guess I'll give it another try when v4.1 flash is available.

k__ 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I used flash with pi and it worked pretty well.

It built this whole IaC plugin from scratch: https://github.com/fllstck/nebius-alchemy