Everyone knows that they train on the discounted rate plans data. All the labs are upfront about this too.

If you need privacy, then you are going to have to pay full price for those tokens (API). This has been true since day one. Everyone knows it, I guess though this is the first time that it has become "real".

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nozzlegear 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> If you need privacy, then you are going to have to pay full price for those tokens (API).

At this point, how can we even trust that they aren't accidentally training on those tokens too?

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jdm2212 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It'd be corporate suicide for them to be caught violating zero-data-retention commitments. But also if you're really paranoid you can just use ChatGPT on Azure or AWS, where nothing is flowing back to OpenAI at all.

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nozzlegear 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> It'd be corporate suicide for them to be caught violating zero-data-retention commitments.

One would think getting caught asleep at the wheel while their bots are escaping containment and hacking third parties would be corporate suicide. One would think that potentially stealing their competitors' work on the Navier-Stokes problem would be corporate suicide.

Alas we live in bizarro world where there are zero consequences (maybe the opposite, in fact) for the first, and their employees meme about the second on social media.

	▲	WarmWash 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Neither of those other two examples would stop corporations from giving you money. Bold faced lying to them would. Boardrooms run businesses, not bookstore ethics clubs.

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14u2c 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can also pay for their business plan, which includes data controls and starts at $50/mo (2 seats). Not exactly a high bar.

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spruce_tips 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

what counts as discounted rate plans? if i pay for a year in advance (and get the yearly discount) and have train on my data set to off.. are you saying that is still being trained on?

	▲	magicalhippo 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's quite well explained here[1], which is linked from the Privacy section of their plan overview[2]. Basically individual accounts can opt out, while business and enterprise plans as well as API users can opt in. You'd have to take their word, but that goes for anything in life. [1]: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/5722486-how-your-data-is... [2]: https://chatgpt.com/pricing/

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TZubiri 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>They only fuck over the poor ones, I can pay the expensive prices so this is not a problem.

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perching_aix 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's literally an opt out toggle even pesky peons like me can peruse, actually.

	▲	lima 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		They may still train on it if you submit feedback or flag a safeguard. The terms are a bit fuzzy on this.