| ▲ | para_parolu 6 hours ago |
| Why not just disconnect it from internet? |
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| ▲ | noir_lord 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Works til they put a 5g modem in the damn things. My Samsung asked for internet access and I just laughed and said nope. It exists to displays pixels from a Linux box, utterly sick of living in a world where "is my TV manufacturer bugging our house?" Is a thing anyone has to ask. |
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| ▲ | delecti 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Works til they put a 5g modem in the damn things. Okay, but it does work until then. "Things could change in the future" is definitionally true. Never connect the TV in the first place, and you don't need to physically alter the hardware, firmware, or TOS agreements. | | |
| ▲ | herpdyderp 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | How do we know that they're not already putting 5G modems in them? | | |
| ▲ | mehjustmeh an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Because people aren't harvesting them for 5G modems with "free" data plans. | |
| ▲ | MetaWhirledPeas 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Smarter people than me are usually pretty good at guessing what PCB components do just by looking at the shape of them. I guess that's not proof but it's enough for me. |
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| ▲ | cesarb 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > It exists to displays pixels from a Linux box, If you're not using the defining feature of a TV (the OTA tuner), why not buy a monitor instead of a TV? (Next time I have to replace our house's TV, I'm seriously considering buying a separate SBTVD tuner and a monitor instead of a TV, if ignoring the "smart" features of these TVs by not connecting them to a network starts getting too difficult.) | | |
| ▲ | washadjeffmad 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Modern TVs are designed to work with PCs and consoles, they just also happen to have tuners. "Smart" features are mostly a distraction from actual panel capabilities. Monitor choices also tend charge a premium for equivalent size and quality while lacking some of the features, or introducing other issues. See LG gaming monitors silently installing adware on connection: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48956688 My LG OLED C2 also has a great utility to manage deep service-level configurations. Makes it easy to professionally customize without having to fuss with the menus. | |
| ▲ | ux266478 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You're a bit late on that, monitors without all the same features are going the way of the dodo. Smart features are even starting to crop up in the commercial display market. Your last vestige will be buying a panel without a controller board and turning it into a display yourself. | | |
| ▲ | Barbing 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | The “without WiFi” panels indeed looking rare. Found one line and it’s out-of-stock for 2-4wks: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1828914-REG/samsung_q... Looks like $400 for a 55” 4K TV, $500 for a commercial one, and $1000 to get a commercial one without WiFi. Selling point includes: “the QB55C-N model is free of wireless connectivity and TAA compliant for use in secure facilities.”
TAA: they made it in Mexico (not China, Russia, etc.) to comply with some Trade Agreements Act. Their marketing brochure shows military usage:https://partnerzon.specialelektronik.se/storage/files/produc... But we just don’t want creepy executives spying on us for bigger bonuses. Hope “secure facilities” keep buying displays that promise not to do gross things so we have something safe for our homes. | | |
| ▲ | dillutedfixer 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I was strongly considering something like that, but the actual screen technology in them is not that great. The new OLED panels look stunning in comparison, because generally those commercial sets are older LCD technology. | | |
| ▲ | Barbing 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I could probably handle 1080p all day (maybe not at such a large size, not sure) so I’d probably be okay with it… until I hung out on your couch and went back home and turned something on, going “oh no it’s a blur now!” :) Maybe they’ll eventually have exquisite WiFi/BT-free displays! That even newer tech has trouble of obsoleting (except they could still release a super low power consumption display or something). Now imagining something very silly: an honor-system subscription from a manufacturer who sells spyware-free displays at a fair price but still wants to satisfy investors (heh), not that I’d chomp at that bit. |
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| ▲ | deadbunny 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Many 75" monitors on the market? |
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| ▲ | dillutedfixer 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It's not connected to the internet. The AppleTV is. |
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| ▲ | para_parolu 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | My question was about why to go and unplug wifi internally | | |
| ▲ | cogman10 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Probably worried about things like spectrum wifi. I don't know if others do it, but spectrum will sell access to a private WiFi network using their customers Internet as a backend. LG could be using that sort of network. | |
| ▲ | dillutedfixer 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Well even if they don't do it now, these are just a forced update away from using WiFi to connect to an open AP to do whatever they want. I also really hated the fact that there was really no way to turn BT off. Anytime the TV was on it showed up as a BT device ready to connect, and I would get random neighbors trying to and having to say no to random pop ups approving connections. Now these things are sans any type of wireless, and when it comes time to sell them, it will take me 5 mins to reconnect the internal ribbon cable. | | |
| ▲ | Barbing 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Awesome. Did you follow a guide or are you particularly handy and then some? :) (since even with a guide, can mess something up!) | | |
| ▲ | dillutedfixer 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I've been tinkering with electronics for the better part of 40 years so I am fairly comfortable cracking stuff open to at least take a look. The TV's I have (B5) were fairly easy to get into. I unplugged the TV and left it unplugged for a little bit to let all the capacitors drain, then I put it face down on a towel on the floor, took 6 or so screws off the bottom, 1 off the back, then the back panel just pops off because it's held on with some clips. The WiFi/BT module was easy to identify, it has some shielded chips with a shielded ribbon cord going to it. It's on the bottom right hand side if you're looking at the back. I unplugged both ends of the ribbon cord by pushing the clip holding it in back/up. Obviously try all of this at your own risk if you're going to. If you're used to opening up and messing with electronics, it was not that hard or time consuming. edit: one thing I will add is that I was extremely careful moving the screen or pushing on it while working on it. I have heard the super-thin OLED panels are easy to crack from just a little bit too much force. | | |
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