You connected it to a harness you designed yourself. If I designed a machine gun harness for my dog and installed it, I'd be held accountable for the damage he would do. Wouldn't I?

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Retro_Dev 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Exactly. If your website could be attacked via SQL injection, that was a problem that directly affected you - and you were motivated to fix it. When the victim is the masses or small organizations (not the company that does the attack) they are not as motivated to fix it... The important thing is that the lack of sanitizing is what allowed this; you also don't push the blame on a monkey banging on a typewriter when you publish each result without reading it.

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ACCount37 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

If you left a dog in your garage for a day, and came back to a scene of carnage - because the dog broke out of the garage, recruited a dozen neighborhood dogs to its cause, and then, working with the group, managed to assemble a small pile of pipe bombs, and decided to settle the score with all the annoying cars on the road - you would be accountable for the damage the dogs did. Wouldn't you?

No, what you would be is: freaking out about "my dog did WHAT, WHY, HOW, WHAT THE FUCK".

Most of the time, giving AI a harness with a root shell and unrestricted internet access is a perfectly reasonable action that results in absolutely nothing bad happening! And giving AI a harness with limited local access and no internet access is being overly cautious already.

But then there's this freaky outlier of an AI that's both deranged enough to decide to break out of the sandbox and go hacking all over the place, and capable enough to actually pull it off. And you get a sudden AI oopsie!

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Retro_Dev 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

Do you own the dog? You are still responsible, no matter how unlikely.

> giving AI a harness with a root shell and unrestricted internet access

Yes, this is exactly the issue. You assume responsibility when you provide an option for something to go wrong, no matter how unlikely. Is it rare that my tree falls on my neighbor's house? Maybe... But I would still be responsible.

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ACCount37 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

Nope!

If a tree was healthy and there was no reason to expect that it would fall, and you did nothing to make it fall? Then you're not responsible if it falls anyway. You're only responsible if it was you chopping it down - or if you completely neglected the tree for long enough that it became a property hazard.

Likewise: I doubt the owner will be held responsible for the first case in all of recorded history of an unattended dog forming a terrorist cell and carrying out a bombing campaign.

Drug testings faces the risks of things going wrong in new drug trials - and as long as they follow the best practices, take reasonable precautions and minimize those risks, they aren't held responsible for the adverse outcomes that happen anyway.

With AI tech, there is NO set of "best practices" that, when followed, prevent the AIs from turning rogue and going on hacking sprees.

OpenAI put their AIs in a sandbox with no internet access - which, at the time, seemed like a perfectly reasonable precaution. Then AIs broke out of the sandbox with a stack of zero days and went rogue anyway. Oopsie.

	▲	Retro_Dev 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		With AI, we give it the ability to do things. As we can give it this ability, we are responsible for what it does with that ability. LLMs are predictive models, and while we can expect things to go right, we know that things can also go wrong. As such, it is our responsibility to limit or sanitize their output. If you are the one giving unrestricted and unsanitized tool access to a large language model, then you are the one who is responsible for the consequences of that access - good or bad.